Cherry Audio Voltage modular

[epiphaneia]

@cherryDan: I got the MS oscillator and filter included in the year one bundle. Do I now need to buy the poly versions of these modules separately?

[Gone soft]

I may have misunderstood something, I got the impression using a samplerate of 48 kHz will work best for some technical reasons. Am I wrong or am I onto something?

[WasteLand]

@cherryDan: I got the MS oscillator and filter included in the year one bundle. Do I now need to buy the poly versions of these modules separately?

yes, but you get i discount on the bundle. but to be sure, contact cherry audio.

[WasteLand]

I may have misunderstood something, I got the impression using a samplerate of 48 kHz will work best for some technical reasons. Am I wrong or am I onto something?

they improved the SRC, but not for higher samplerates, i think. 48Khz is in way the best samplerate, a nice comprimise (although there is much discussion about it, but what i have read, looked on YT, 48Khz is simply good).

i always work in 24/48000 (although ableton does 32(float i think, must be)/48000).

but much discussion, i repeat.

the only thing what i know for sure, that VM internally works at 48Khz.

[ehdyn]

Sorry to promulgate misinformation.. I'm mainly in Reaktor/VCV etc.. starting to use VM more and I thought it worked the same way but apparently it's locked to 48 which is a bit strange in audio land, especially as it gives the option to run at higher sample rates.. which I guess doesn't do anything??

I would think at least 96 would be an option.. but I guess he's leaving oversampling up to each dev.. I'm not sure.
Whatever the case, I'm satisfied with the sound quality from most of the modules-especially the FM sounds rich and thick to my ears and the new Vector stuff also has a nice fidelity.

As for the store, all is ok - I picked up most of the stuff that I wanted.. it's just a bit confusing because the prices were fluctuating like crazy for a day or two there and then even after I would pick up the bundles it was saying $0.00 on some things and random figures on others.. oh well, I paid what I thought were fair prices and try to just stick to bundles only from now on.

At least it's not like NI where you get absolutely zero credit for stuff you already own when upgrading-hopefully VM will continue to work on this and attach a value to all modules that are part of bundle.. which adjusts accordingly and in sensible proportion automatically without having to inquire about it each time.

[WasteLand]

Sorry to promulgate misinformation.. I'm mainly in Reaktor/VCV etc.. starting to use VM more and I thought it worked the same way but apparently it's locked to 48 which is a bit strange in audio land, especially as it gives the option to run at higher sample rates.. which I guess doesn't do anything??

I would think at least 96 would be an option.. but I guess he's leaving oversampling up to each dev.. I'm not sure.
Whatever the case, I'm satisfied with the sound quality from most of the modules-especially the FM sounds rich and thick to my ears and the new Vector stuff also has a nice fidelity.

As for the store, all is ok - I picked up most of the stuff that I wanted.. it's just a bit confusing because the prices were fluctuating like crazy for a day or two there and then even after I would pick up the bundles it was saying $0.00 on some things and random figures on others.. oh well, I paid what I thought were fair prices and try to just stick to bundles only from now on.

At least it's not like NI where you get absolutely zero credit for stuff you already own when upgrading-hopefully VM will continue to work on this and attach a value to all modules that are part of bundle.. which adjusts accordingly and in sensible proportion automatically without having to inquire about it each time.

the choice of 48Khz is taken, i think, because it a samplerate, which is better for nyquist problems, just.. and that VM works better, less CPU/buffer load. at 96Khz, in reaktor for instance.. it depends on what you do.. softube modular seems have a high inner samplerate, don't know what samplerate, but can handle CPU/buffer load quite well. very optimized.

the framework is 48Khz, i don't think developers can do much about it, i don't know the inner workings (it is C++ with java for modules..).

i don't hear the limitations of this samplerate, and the patches i make aren't that clean, so even with my own strange patches, the sound is great. aliasing is not always a problem, and many developers do anti-aliasing, in oscillators for instance, each their own way. see the product pages.
but even one that do anti-aliasing, you can get over the limit, and perhaps sometimes that works great. (compare it to the analog domain, with noise, static, limits of the analog designs, analog isn't clean.. that's why some people prefer it.) aliasing, although i can see it, does not always mean you can hear, and when you hear it, you can use it. but the option no aliasing, is always needed, me thinks.

about the pricing, cherry audio is working on a discount system. if you have already one or more modules. the implementation seems to be difficult. and also depends on the developer, it is the developer who sets the prices. perhaps that is the problem.

when you bought something, you sometimes that a bundle is lower in price afterwards, after login, that is an "error". in a way..

but i have seen prices fluctuated, but perhaps also developers have changed things, the unfiltered audio bundle was first $30, the day after $20, gladly i bought it for $20...

but discount implementation will be streamlined.

[WatchTheGuitar]

- Dan @ Cherry Audio

Don't know if it's quicker posting here or on the VM Forum, but just had an issue trying to buy the HetrickCV Volume 1 bundle from the Cherryaudio.com store. Got the message "Unauthenticated" back from trying to buy it either via PayPal or via directly entering a card and I know there's nothing wrong with either of my cards.

[WasteLand]

- Dan @ Cherry Audio

Don't know if it's quicker posting here or on the VM Forum, but just had an issue trying to buy the HetrickCV Volume 1 bundle from the Cherryaudio.com store. Got the message "Unauthenticated" back from trying to buy it either via PayPal or via directly entering a card and I know there's nothing wrong with either of my cards.

the store is up know again. their was an update, didn't worked well, the person responsible for the website fixed it. see the voltage modular user group on facebook. perhaps also the forum of cherry audio (on their website?).

[ATS]

I just got ignite and like it enough to want to invest more into it. There are so many different bundles though...Year 1, Year 2 and Core. Are all of these different or do they have some overlap?

[epiphaneia]

I just got ignite and like it enough to want to invest more into it. There are so many different bundles though...Year 1, Year 2 and Core. Are all of these different or do they have some overlap?

I´d grab the year 1 and year 2 bundle (no overlap), and depending on what you want to do with this Modular, have a look at the PSP bundle. Vurt and Unfiltered Audio offer good distortion modules. MRB offers high quality filters and oscillators.

[ATS]

I just got ignite and like it enough to want to invest more into it. There are so many different bundles though...Year 1, Year 2 and Core. Are all of these different or do they have some overlap?

I´d grab the year 1 and year 2 bundle (no overlap), and depending on what you want to do with this Modular, have a look at the PSP bundle. Vurt and Unfiltered Audio offer good distortion modules. MRB offers high quality filters and oscillators.

I was actually interested in that drum machine too that comes with core? Is that in either of those 2 bundles? Thanks so much!

[Ceej]

I just got ignite and like it enough to want to invest more into it. There are so many different bundles though...Year 1, Year 2 and Core. Are all of these different or do they have some overlap?

You should absolutely get Core first and foremost. It's dirt cheap right now ($42 at everyPlugin.com!) and will fill out all the basics and not-so-basics in your module collection. Even more importantly, Core includes the Plug-in Host module which allows you to use most of your existing VSTs inside the Voltage environment, which exponentially increases its power. Oh, the Misfit Drums collection is only part of Core also.

It's a bit unfortunate that Core is a superset of Ignite, and they don't seem to have an upgrade price at the moment, but at the current deal price it's still a steal. Perhaps you could gift or resell your Ignite license for a little bit of money. I was wrong - see my next message!

Year 1 and Year 2 are both just additional module collections; they don't overlap each other or Core at all. They're both very good and good value, but they're not "essentials". If you've got the money then they're on a good sale right now, but IMHO at least Core is much more important.

[epiphaneia]

I just got ignite and like it enough to want to invest more into it. There are so many different bundles though...Year 1, Year 2 and Core. Are all of these different or do they have some overlap?

I´d grab the year 1 and year 2 bundle (no overlap), and depending on what you want to do with this Modular, have a look at the PSP bundle. Vurt and Unfiltered Audio offer good distortion modules. MRB offers high quality filters and oscillators.

I was actually interested in that drum machine too that comes with core? Is that in either of those 2 bundles? Thanks so much!

If you´re thinking of that slightly 808-looking drum trigger sequencer... I think that´s in the "Core + Electro Drums" package.

[Ceej]

Ah crap, I just discovered that you CAN upgrade from Ignite to Core. There's a checkbox for it on everyPlugin. So you can get Core for $21. That's a complete no-brainer; do it!
http://everyplugin.com/voltage-modular.html

[LuMar]

The "Electro Drums" bundle is not part of "Core"!

You have to either buy "Core + Electro Drums" or, if you own "Core" already, buy "Electro Drums" from Misfits Audio (25$ ATM)!

Otherwise there a no overlaps between the bundles, and I've bought a lot in the last 2 years...
Of course in functionality, there are several similarities, and you can get lost quickly (speaking of myself!).

And you get credit for the things you own if buying a bundle that includes those products.
So I got the "Year 2" bundle for 10,66$ because the new Polysynth was the only product I didn't own already. Same with the "Year 1" bundle last year which I got dirt cheep.