$2000 Analog synth module (not a modular one) for Dance music production

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cowby
KVRian
1014 posts since 2 Feb, 2005

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:12 pm

Hi, My last piece of hw synth was virus TI2 and now I would like to pick a hardware synth which has at least 6 voices, built in effect, analog, nice to have FM and not a modular one. With this budget, I am thinking of Dave smith's synth, Analog 4 MK2 and Peak. I would like to hear from you if I have missed anything in the market which is still in production and within my budget. (not 2nd hand synth).

Thanks!
Cowby

the.new.me
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164 posts since 13 Jul, 2020

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:42 pm

Get yourself 3 deep mind 12 modules for that price :)

Or korg minilogue xd desktop and deep mind 12 module. :)

Or build a powerful PC if you already don't have and buy Repro 5 :D

cowby
KVRian
1014 posts since 2 Feb, 2005

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:46 pm

Deepmind and Korg minilogue XD ... Can they do audio over USB ? My sound interface has limited I/O

the.new.me
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164 posts since 13 Jul, 2020

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:46 pm

No. Also it's unlikely any analog synth will give you this. Peak might offer usb but it's not analog synthesizer, it only has analog filter.

vitocorleone123
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776 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:43 pm

What kind of dance music?

Analog synths can do what you want most likely, but they may also not be the best choice compared to something digital

the.new.me
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164 posts since 13 Jul, 2020

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:35 pm

vitocorleone123 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:43 pm
What kind of dance music?

Analog synths can do what you want most likely, but they may also not be the best choice compared to something digital
You can do any kind of dance music with analog synths (taking in to account you would also be using external effects like distortion), but indeed they arent always the best choice, simply due to dificulty to get certain sounds, especialy for those where the common practise is to use FM or Wavetable (taking in to accound the wavetables are provided) synthesis.

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BertKoor
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12204 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:59 pm

cowby wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:46 pm
Can they do audio over USB ? My sound interface has limited I/O
Your DAW will not like having to connect to both your main audio interface and the synth's USB port. If these are set to different sampling rates (some devices are fixed to 48kHz) then that will be a problem.

Are you on Mac or Windows?
- On a Mac you can create an Aggregate Device
- On Windows there's Asio4All in Einstein mode to do the same

Note that if the clocks of both audio devices have a slight drift (guaranteed they do, only question is by how much) then something has to give way in order to keep them synced to the same sample rate.

Just saying: a synth with its own audio over USB doesn't solve your problem but only gives more headaches.
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cowby
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1014 posts since 2 Feb, 2005

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:22 pm

vitocorleone123 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:43 pm
What kind of dance music?

Trance and sometimes Ambi.

Analog synths can do what you want most likely, but they may also not be the best choice compared to something digital
Agree but as I said I have Virus TI2 which I owned it for more than 8 years. Now I am looking for (or investing) an Analog synth with sonic difference. I want to use it to make some kick/snare, ambi pads, plucks and bass. Although you may say Virus can do it all and again, I want another sonic and sound difference. Like you use Canon can take good photos but why not try Sony or Nikon ?

cowby
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1014 posts since 2 Feb, 2005

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:24 pm

BertKoor wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:59 pm
cowby wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:46 pm
Can they do audio over USB ? My sound interface has limited I/O
Your DAW will not like having to connect to both your main audio interface and the synth's USB port. If these are set to different sampling rates (some devices are fixed to 48kHz) then that will be a problem.

Are you on Mac or Windows?
- On a Mac you can create an Aggregate Device
- On Windows there's Asio4All in Einstein mode to do the same

Note that if the clocks of both audio devices have a slight drift (guaranteed they do, only question is by how much) then something has to give way in order to keep them synced to the same sample rate.

Just saying: a synth with its own audio over USB doesn't solve your problem but only gives more headaches.
The Virus TI2 works very well in this regards in my PC system (Windows 10)

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10390 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:25 am

Prophet Rev 2, comes in 8 or 16 voice.
Novation Peak might fit your bill, too. It's a bit of a hybrid but it's analogue where it counts.
Deepmind 12 is also a contender, I suppose.
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SneakyBeats
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184 posts since 29 Jun, 2020

Post Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:44 am

Guess there's no easy solution.. Waldorf Pulse 2 is something to consider if you're into anything electronic, but it's a mono (paraphonic though). Accompany it with some analog poly like deepmind 12D for polyphonic stuff.

If 2k is your budget, those two cost together around 1k, so you have 1k left for a new interface or a mixer.

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excuse me please
KVRian
811 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Post Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:52 am

Yeah, you don't want to record your expensive synth with some cheap interface. You need $500+ for that as well. Otherwise you'll throw your money away.

anomandaris1
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472 posts since 26 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:09 am

excuse me please wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:52 am
Yeah, you don't want to record your expensive synth with some cheap interface. You need $500+ for that as well. Otherwise you'll throw your money away.
Can you prove this?
Of course,you cannot...
Btw, many "cheap" audio interfaces right now are better than expensive audio interfaces from the past.

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excuse me please
KVRian
811 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Post Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:29 am

anomandaris1 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:09 am
excuse me please wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:52 am
Yeah, you don't want to record your expensive synth with some cheap interface. You need $500+ for that as well. Otherwise you'll throw your money away.
Can you prove this?
Of course,you cannot...
Btw, many "cheap" audio interfaces right now are better than expensive audio interfaces from the past.
Name a few then. You are wasting time.

anomandaris1
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472 posts since 26 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:32 am

excuse me please wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:29 am
anomandaris1 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:09 am
excuse me please wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:52 am
Yeah, you don't want to record your expensive synth with some cheap interface. You need $500+ for that as well. Otherwise you'll throw your money away.
Can you prove this?
Of course,you cannot...
Btw, many "cheap" audio interfaces right now are better than expensive audio interfaces from the past.
Name a few then. You are wasting time.
Behringer, Focusrite, Audient etc.

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