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fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:32 am

Brian.McClelland wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:02 pm
Caine123 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:27 pm
hi Brrian,

please bear in mind the jd800/990 crowd

thx
Hi, Caine123! I'm also winking at the JD-800/990 crowd.

You've been winking since longtime. Yet we are still waiting

Lately, all we have seen is Zenology... Frankly I give little to that

Oh, and please create a f***g RCM that works. I am tired of having to uninstall and reinstall versions every time I want to do something (happened again today). The stupid installer isn't even able to uninstall the previous version, and asks the user to do that

iZotope and others have created installer managers much later than Roland that are working flawlessly. Yours is still full of problems, and you are changing the damn GUI constantly, instead of fixing it.

What about V-Synth, BTW?

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:54 am

fmr wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:32 am
Brian.McClelland wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:02 pm
Caine123 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:27 pm
hi Brrian,

please bear in mind the jd800/990 crowd

thx
Hi, Caine123! I'm also winking at the JD-800/990 crowd.
You've been winking since longtime. Yet we are still waiting

Lately, all we have seen is Zenology... Frankly I give little to that

Oh, and please create a f***g RCM that works. I am tired of having to uninstall and reinstall versions every time I want to do something (happened again today). The stupid installer isn't even able to uninstall the previous version, and asks the user to do that

iZotope and others have created installer managers much later than Roland that are working flawlessly. Yours is still full of problems, and you are changing the damn GUI constantly, instead of fixing it.

What about V-Synth, BTW?

didnt want to sound harsh but the last months and maybe the last year? i dunno why i paid for the cloud. i wait for my full year to choose my instruments but then i decide what to do, roland cloud needs to add new products and no fillers and optimizations of their cloud stuff...

FotoxBr · Post by **FotoxBr** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:35 pm

Yes. I was able to load patches from the Zenology pro vst to my MC-101 hardware. It works.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:58 pm

Hey guys,
Tired of seeing constant bashing of Roland cloud,
It works and always worked beautifully for me

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:40 pm

I have Roland’s Zenbeats app installed on my iPad and it just got upgraded to v2 and interestingly includes a new zen core instrument ZC-1 which seems to have a lot of sounds from the range like Juno, Jupiter etc. Not investigated too much, but didn’t seem to cost anything and none of the packs did either, but because it links to my Roland Cloud account and I’m currently subscribing at the Pro level it may be others have to pay for some of it. Not sure, but worth a look.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:44 pm

I have a question.
Zenology Pro is available for a trial for a month, I previously had Zenology installed.
Should installing Zenology Pro bring more patches? I still only see IntA, but their walk thru show a lot more, especialy INTB,C,and D.
How do I get those?
thanks
rsp

sinemotor · Post by **sinemotor** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:53 pm

crystalmsc wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:11 am The Zenology Pro is here https://www.roland.com/us/products/rc_zenology_pro

The interface is well made. Simple but functional. The step LFOs like the performers in Massive. That's all good, now we have the ultimate Roland ROMpler+VA soft synth!

sinemotor · Post by **sinemotor** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:59 pm

zvenx wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:44 pm I have a question.
Zenology Pro is available for a trial for a month, I previously had Zenology installed.
Should installing Zenology Pro bring more patches? I still only see IntA, but their walk thru show a lot more, especialy INTB,C,and D.
How do I get those?
thanks
rsp

I think Zenology Pro replaces "Zenology" automatically. You have to download the EXZ banks, Model Expansions and preset packs from RC Manager if you want more.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:43 pm

Thanks.

I am in particular looking for those, but I don't see them in RCM available to be downloaded.
rsp

Brian.McClelland · Post by **Brian.McClelland** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:47 pm

Caine123 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:54 am
fmr wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:32 am
Brian.McClelland wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:02 pm
Caine123 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:27 pm
hi Brrian,

please bear in mind the jd800/990 crowd

thx
Hi, Caine123! I'm also winking at the JD-800/990 crowd.
You've been winking since longtime. Yet we are still waiting

Lately, all we have seen is Zenology... Frankly I give little to that

Oh, and please create a f***g RCM that works. I am tired of having to uninstall and reinstall versions every time I want to do something (happened again today). The stupid installer isn't even able to uninstall the previous version, and asks the user to do that

iZotope and others have created installer managers much later than Roland that are working flawlessly. Yours is still full of problems, and you are changing the damn GUI constantly, instead of fixing it.

What about V-Synth, BTW?
didnt want to sound harsh but the last months and maybe the last year? i dunno why i paid for the cloud. i wait for my full year to choose my instruments but then i decide what to do, roland cloud needs to add new products and no fillers and optimizations of their cloud stuff...

Hey, fmr and Caine123. It was only four days since you asked me about the JD! Haha. Don't worry, we are rolling out many new instruments and sounds all the time. Though I'm not allowed to say exactly when, we'll have more coming to you.

re: the Uninstaller, we did notice a bug that effects a small amount of users. We'd love to get with you and see how that happened. I'll send you a PM with some info.

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:46 pm

Hi Brian,
Zenology Pro does not show up in ZenBeats. Scanned, but shows up in the list of rejected VSTs.
Showing up fine in Ableton Live 10. Not sure why this is not working.

Anyone else have this problem?

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:02 pm

Just opened Zenology Pro after watching the ten minute Roland video and it seems a shame that if you open any of the extended presets from Juno, Jupiter 8, JX-8P and SH-101 (where preset banks are EXM001 thru EXM004) a lot of the Pro options are hidden - so you don't get access to partials or the complete MFX panel options which means you can't set up multiple effects in a chain like chorus, delay and reverb at the same time.
I guess they did it like that because they wanted to present a simplified and easier to use interface, but they're then taking away a lot of what you want to be able to do like layer those sounds or create a nice effects chain. Maybe it's on their list of things to do?

zen pro editing comparisons.png

Edit: Actually it seems I was wrong about the MFX edit screen anyway - it only lets you select one effect. What I thought was room for 4 different effects on the right is just for selecting up to four CC parameters for control.
Looks like effects is definitely an area Roland would do well to work on.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:06 pm

JamminFool wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:46 pm Hi Brian,
Zenology Pro does not show up in ZenBeats. Scanned, but shows up in the list of rejected VSTs.
Showing up fine in Ableton Live 10. Not sure why this is not working.

Anyone else have this problem?

It works fine here in zenbeats/Windows 10.

Are you on Mac or PC?

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:29 pm

Hmmm, strange. Windows 10 here.

Brian.McClelland · Post by **Brian.McClelland** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:57 pm

JamminFool wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:46 pm Hi Brian,
Zenology Pro does not show up in ZenBeats. Scanned, but shows up in the list of rejected VSTs.
Showing up fine in Ableton Live 10. Not sure why this is not working.

Anyone else have this problem?

Hey, JamminFool! Sorry it's not loading for you. I think we have something for that. Let's take a look at the system and find out what's going on. Please follow the Contact Us link at: http://www.rolandcloud.com/support