Strat pickup suggestions for clean 80s funk/RnB?
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 88 posts since 21 Aug, 2020
Looking for a set of single coil pickups to help get that clean and shiny tone of 80s funk/RnB/Post disco/Boogie/City Pop/etc. I know it's mostly in the DI but, concerning pickups,
the stock pickups on my mim fender strat are ok, but I'm curious about other pickup options and a I came across a couple that sound good. If you have any experience with these, let me hear what you think of them.
What I've liked so far from what I've found:
Fender CS 69
Fender 57/62
Lindy Fralin Vintage Hot
Lace Sensor Gold
Some style examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-eCNM-TmhY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfO3DsCnJh4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMSVQsVsEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-lOm3iLLkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSxtLCMKKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsDYjOu_i1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Zjrcp45gI
Thanks,
Kameo
the stock pickups on my mim fender strat are ok, but I'm curious about other pickup options and a I came across a couple that sound good. If you have any experience with these, let me hear what you think of them.
What I've liked so far from what I've found:
Fender CS 69
Fender 57/62
Lindy Fralin Vintage Hot
Lace Sensor Gold
Some style examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-eCNM-TmhY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfO3DsCnJh4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMSVQsVsEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-lOm3iLLkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSxtLCMKKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsDYjOu_i1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Zjrcp45gI
Thanks,
Kameo
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- KVRist
- 412 posts since 12 Mar, 2005
The grand-daddy of that sound (Nile Rodgers) mostly played with a strat straight into the board (sometimes with an ART Powerplant), neck pickup wound up really high (going to have a naturally compressive effect on the sound).
There's obviously changes you can make, but have you just tried varying the rest of the signal path to see how close you get?
There's obviously changes you can make, but have you just tried varying the rest of the signal path to see how close you get?
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 88 posts since 21 Aug, 2020
I have tried a couple of different things outside of my DAW and inside, and gotten close, but not quite there. The only thing I haven't tried is the NYLE pedal, but I've heard some bad things about it. I've played on a similar strat with a 57/62 set running through my setup and that got me pretty close, but like I said, there are so many options out of what I found that I thought I would ask what out of that list is going to be the most solid.chrisstiles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:45 pm There's obviously changes you can make, but have you just tried varying the rest of the signal path to see how close you get?
- KVRAF
- 15262 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
You can try (borrow?) a telecaster with some compression leaving a bit of the attack. Very funky.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 88 posts since 21 Aug, 2020
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- KVRist
- 412 posts since 12 Mar, 2005
I think it's easy to get too hung up on the guitar and pickups, as if you look at what various players used it varies *a lot*, see this clip/spiel on David Williams: https://youtu.be/JsA6WWO5D4c?t=108Kameo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:57 amI have tried a couple of different things outside of my DAW and inside, and gotten close, but not quite there. The only thing I haven't tried is the NYLE pedal, but I've heard some bad things about it. I've played on a similar strat with a 57/62 set running through my setup and that got me pretty close, but like I said, there are so many options out of what I found that I thought I would ask what out of that list is going to be the most solid.chrisstiles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:45 pm There's obviously changes you can make, but have you just tried varying the rest of the signal path to see how close you get?
Full clip here: https://youtu.be/JQBaOH7Zeug
The clip from the TV show is one where he's playing what looks like an early Starfield. I'm guessing most of it is style of playing/damping and outboard effects over specific strat/pickup combo.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 88 posts since 21 Aug, 2020
Thank you for posting those videos, I've never seen those and they're actually very enlightening.chrisstiles wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:18 am
I think it's easy to get too hung up on the guitar and pickups, as if you look at what various players used it varies *a lot*, see this clip/spiel on David Williams: https://youtu.be/JsA6WWO5D4c?t=108
Full clip here: https://youtu.be/JQBaOH7Zeug
The clip from the TV show is one where he's playing what looks like an early Starfield. I'm guessing most of it is style of playing/damping and outboard effects over specific strat/pickup combo.
I guess it's not as important, but since I have to get a new single anyway since I'm converting from hss to sss, I'll just grab the 69 set and focus on my technique more. Maybe look into that JHS premp pedal for some outboard help.
Side note: That Starfield is beautiful, paint and all.
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- KVRist
- 412 posts since 12 Mar, 2005
If you are looking for more vintage and vintage style options; the boutique end is Kloppman (https://www.kloppmann-electrics.com/en/ ... r-pickups/ ) though expect to pay nearly as much for a single pickup as you might for a full set.Kameo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:41 pm Thank you for posting those videos, I've never seen those and they're actually very enlightening.
I guess it's not as important, but since I have to get a new single anyway since I'm converting from hss to sss, I'll just grab the 69 set and focus on my technique more. Maybe look into that JHS premp pedal for some outboard help.
Then there's Kinman and Van Zandt - I've tried both and each are 'convincingly vintage' in their own way if you are looking for something that sounds like a particular vintage.
And if you are working up technique, you may want to check out Cory Wong, he has a few short instructional videos on youtube, like this one:
https://youtu.be/jTo1B7ceIWo
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 88 posts since 21 Aug, 2020
Man those Kloppmann pickups sound incredible, definitely outside of my budget but those sound really really good. Thanks for the Cory video, Vulfpeck is definitely pretty funky.chrisstiles wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:11 pm If you are looking for more vintage and vintage style options; the boutique end is Kloppman (https://www.kloppmann-electrics.com/en/ ... r-pickups/ ) though expect to pay nearly as much for a single pickup as you might for a full set.
EDIT: Ended up buying the Fender Custom Shop 69 set, thanks for the replies everyone. I appreciate the advice.
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- KVRist
- 412 posts since 12 Mar, 2005
Also found this video today, which reminded me of this thread -- even if you don't have the UAD plugins (guess most people won't), the basic strategies used should be transferrable:Kameo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:35 am Man those Kloppmann pickups sound incredible, definitely outside of my budget but those sound really really good. Thanks for the Cory video, Vulfpeck is definitely pretty funky.
EDIT: Ended up buying the Fender Custom Shop 69 set, thanks for the replies everyone. I appreciate the advice.
https://youtu.be/Z3fStcglxoQ
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 6800 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
The perfect choice.. You don't want either high or low output what you want is medium. As much as I love lace sensors they aren't focused.
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- KVRAF
- 5950 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
Cool, similar to ones fitted to the Nile Rodgers' Hitmaker by Fender Custom Shop.
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- KVRian
- 686 posts since 17 Sep, 2007 from Planet Thanet
Use a hardtail and watch this (I'm sure you have already)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF1d227 ... e=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF1d227 ... e=emb_logo
- KVRAF
- 5950 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
I wonder if the brass scratch plate has an effect on the pickups' sound and magnetic field.resynthesis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:32 pm Use a hardtail and watch this (I'm sure you have already)
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