Cherry Audio's CA2600 is available NOW!

[Arashi]

Thank you. I hadn't realized that 4-pole and 24dB/oct were two different terms for the same thing.

Yeah, 1 pole = 6 dB/oct.

[WatchTheGuitar]

I have VoltageModular and aliasing isn't dealt too well with at 44.1
At 48 it already changes a lot, at least here on my system.

VM runs everything internally at 48 kHz...

All samples within Voltage module are 64-bit floating-point doubles at 48Khz. Audio coming into and going out of Voltage will be seamlessly resampled to match the sample rate of the host application with a high-quality resampling algorithm.

https://docs.cherryaudio.com/voltage-mo ... -operation

...so that sets up some aliasing if you're not running at 48 kHz or some multiple of that.

[Niowiad]

I have VoltageModular and aliasing isn't dealt too well with at 44.1
At 48 it already changes a lot, at least here on my system.

VM runs everything internally at 48 kHz...

All samples within Voltage module are 64-bit floating-point doubles at 48Khz. Audio coming into and going out of Voltage will be seamlessly resampled to match the sample rate of the host application with a high-quality resampling algorithm.

https://docs.cherryaudio.com/voltage-mo ... -operation

...so that sets up some aliasing if you're not running at 48 kHz or some multiple of that.

I never knew that still unsure of the reason behind that.
All my other softsynths deal with 44.1 just fine. But ok...
Good to know nonetheless. Thanks

[EvilDragon]

Ain't really a high-quality resampling algorithm if it introduces aliasing that's not there at 48k when downsampling to 44.1k...

[gentleclockdivider]

Some vst plugins internally oversample certain modules that can accept audio rate signals for modulation etc, zebra xmf filter comes to mind .
Why release CA 2600 wirh no mention it sounds poor @ 44.1khz ?

[WatchTheGuitar]

Ain't really a high-quality resampling algorithm if it introduces aliasing that's not there at 48k when downsampling to 44.1k...

The human ear is really good at picking up on anomalies though, even if only subliminally knowing something isn't 'right'.

[WatchTheGuitar]

What is going on with all the thumbs up and down bollocks? Grow up.

[AnX]

so it looks like the price reflects the quality of this then....

[WatchTheGuitar]

so it looks like the price reflects the quality of this then....

Indeed, it's priced lower than a mint quality Arp 2600 because it isn't quite as good.

[dnazen]

Since this thread seems quite active and folks here seem knowledgeable, a few posts above the ability to send other tracks into the CA2600 to be processed a la the "Who Are You" effect was mentioned. I have been trying to do this in Studio One bust can't figure out how to do it. I have had several back and forths with PreSonus support about it but they have been less than useless so far. I also tried asking on the Studio One reddit but nothing helpful there yet either. If anyone knows how to do this PLEASE explain it to me because this is driving me crazy. Thanks

Studio One is a bitch with the way it separates instrument and audio tracks. I'm not actually sure if it is possible because as soon as you try to add CA2600 to an audio track it creates an instrument track for CA2600 to live in. The solution - admittedly not great - may be to ask CherryDan if they could compile an 'FX' version of CA2600 so it can be added to an audio track.

I've had issues in the past with Studio One and it has big issues with routing on 'hybrid' instruments like this and it's horrible with the way it handles MIDI effect plugins too.

If you want to just tinker with something then I know it will work with Reaper so download and use that just to get an idea of how it works then apply it to Studio One as and when an FX version of the plugin is available. They have made an FX version of Voltage Modular so they know how to create that sort of a build.

Edit: FYI I have raised this as a request on the Cherry Audio forum.
https://forums.cherryaudio.com/viewtopi ... =39&t=1267

THANK you!! You're the first person who's actually replied to me that actually said anything straight forward and clear about this issue. I suspected this might be the case because although I'm an amateur hobbyist I'm not completely stupid. I wish PreSonus support would just be honest with me about this and not dick me around. I do have an Ableton Live Lite license from my controller keyboard so I've already installed that and with no knowledge whatsoever of Ableton I was able successfully do this in a about 30 seconds. Don't know why Studio One is so difficult about it, I really like it for most things but between this and how they have treated me in response to my queries about it I'm starting think it might be time to move on from S1. Anyway, thanks so much again for your help.

[gentleclockdivider]

so it looks like the price reflects the quality of this then....

I am afraid so ,it's a money grab plugin using the arp 2600 mythical status as a selling point , and I am sure they will sell a lot of them .
On the other hand you'll get a fully audio rate capable synth at a low cpu footprint ,modulatable delay line etc... cheap as chips.
If you play compare it with g-force oddity , the CA2600 just sounds like a 2 dimensional flat tire , the oddity OOoozes character and life , let's hope g-force releases a 2600
But let's be honoust , did anyone expect to have an accurately analogue modelled arp 2600 for 20 bucks ?

[Koshdukai]

But let's be honoust , did anyone expect to have an accurately analogue modelled arp 2600 for 20 bucks ?

hmmm... I'm beginning to suspect that the released build can't be the one shown to Michael Beinhorn, Jezz Woodroffe, Mike Bradford, Michael Whalen, Eric Levy, Clifton Develle Cameron and Don Lewis, right?

[Koshdukai]

TBH, one might've just gone through the presets and go "cool "

...and the UI is indeed clear and crisp, I agree.

...and it does have MIDI, MIDI Sync, a 12/24 dB option and spring/plate option for reverb. All true

[WatchTheGuitar]

THANK you!! You're the first person who's actually replied to me that actually said anything straight forward and clear about this issue. I suspected this might be the case because although I'm an amateur hobbyist I'm not completely stupid. I wish PreSonus support would just be honest with me about this and not dick me around. I do have an Ableton Live Lite license from my controller keyboard so I've already installed that and with no knowledge whatsoever of Ableton I was able successfully do this in a about 30 seconds. Don't know why Studio One is so difficult about it, I really like it for most things but between this and how they have treated me in response to my queries about it I'm starting think it might be time to move on from S1. Anyway, thanks so much again for your help.

No problem. tbh I'm one of those people who uses more than one DAW because I've yet to find one that covers everything successfully (or at least with my preferred workflow) so Studio One is great for most stuff it can fall down a hole when it comes to trying to get certain things to talk to each other whereas that's a piece of piss in Reaper, Ableton, Bitwig etc. Then again I find Studio One has a nice workflow for creating buses and FX sends which can be a PITAS on other DAWs. Reaper has great MIDI editing capabilities, but is rubbish for audio editing. Studio One integration with Melodyne is superior especially now with the chord track... etc.
I say mix and match and whatever works, works.

[gentleclockdivider]

Do you really take those endorsers serious ?
Most of them are just Jordan Rudess clones , promoting everything to get a quick dime .