Black Friday fight - XLN Addictive Drums 2 vs Steven Slate Drums 5.5

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mabian
KVRAF
1996 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:05 pm

They are more or less same price now at least until end of this month:

SSD 67% off @various websites
XLN AD2 65% off @ADSRSounds

Which one would you pick and why?

Thanks,
Mario
Last edited by mabian on Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
7794 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:23 pm

I have both and get good use out of both.

I'd always go for AD2 first though. Whilst SSD does a certain type of quite polished big rock sound extremely well, AD2 is much, much more versatile in terms of available kits, eq and effects (essentially similar to those in the company's RC20, whereas SSD has none built in).

If you're confident at doing your own drum routing/mixing/effects then SSD is a nice additional one to have for the quality of the samples, but for a better and more versatile all-rounder it would be AD2 for me.

mabian
KVRAF
1996 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:05 am

Thanks, I found AD2 quite cheap and could not resist, seems for me much more versatile indeed, while reading around SSD seems more a (very good) one-trick pony.

- Mario

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
7794 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:04 am

mabian wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:05 am
Thanks, I found AD2 quite cheap and could not resist, seems for me much more versatile indeed, while reading around SSD seems more a (very good) one-trick pony.

- Mario
Nice one! Forgot to add,you can also usually pick up additional ADpaks quite cheaply in the buy and sell forum here, and the process of transfer from another user is quite painless.

ReleaseCandidate
KVRist
366 posts since 19 Oct, 2020

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:37 am

SSD has the worst interface (the MIDI mapping!) of all drum plugins, and is getting even worse with each new release (at first it was a Kontakt library). That's why I still use SSD 4, because I can use my old presets (in Live drum racks) and am not forced to making new ones. The default mix you get out of it is actually quite good, so no need to change that if you don't want to.
So: try the free version of SSD to see if you can live with that.

mabian
KVRAF
1996 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:04 am

ReleaseCandidate wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:37 am
SSD has the worst interface (the MIDI mapping!) of all drum plugins, and is getting even worse with each new release (at first it was a Kontakt library). That's why I still use SSD 4, because I can use my old presets (in Live drum racks) and am not forced to making new ones. The default mix you get out of it is actually quite good, so no need to change that if you don't want to.
So: try the free version of SSD to see if you can live with that.
Thanks, I already tried the free SSD, and I like it.
But I don't like the I-Lok stuff (which is not there in the free version) and I am afraid that SSD is not very versatile soundwise, though great for what it focuses on.

I think I will keep this free version and complement it with AD2.

Re: Midi mapping in SSD, I thought that recent version had improvements (I see it as a common complaint), is it still so bad in 5.5?

- Mario
Last edited by mabian on Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:15 am, edited 1 time in total.

nirm123
KVRist
250 posts since 7 Sep, 2012

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:33 am

mabian wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:05 pm
They are more or less same price now at least until end of this month:

SSD 67% off @various websites
XLN AD2 65% off @ADSRSounds

Which one would you pick and why?

Thanks,
Mario
can you link the 65% xlnaudio deal ? the most I see is 50%

ReleaseCandidate
KVRist
366 posts since 19 Oct, 2020

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:41 am

mabian wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:04 am
ReleaseCandidate wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:37 am
SSD has the worst interface (the MIDI mapping!) of all drum plugins, and is getting even worse with each new release (at first it was a Kontakt library). That's why I still use SSD 4, because I can use my old presets (in Live drum racks) and am not forced to making new ones. The default mix you get out of it is actually quite good, so no need to change that if you don't want to.
So: try the free version of SSD to see if you can live with that.
Thanks, I already tried the free SSD, and I like it.
But I don't like the I-Lok stuff (which is not there in the free version) and I am afraid that SSD is not very versatile soundwise, though great for what it focuses on.
Oh yes, I forgot about that. They also changed that after 4 (that still uses a license file), that's another reason I didn't switch.
mabian wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:04 am
Re: Midi mapping in SSD, I thought that recent version had improvements (I see it as a common complaint), s it still so bad in 5.5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKbiLf_l194

mabian
KVRAF
1996 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:17 am

nirm123 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:33 am
mabian wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:05 pm
They are more or less same price now at least until end of this month:

SSD 67% off @various websites
XLN AD2 65% off @ADSRSounds

Which one would you pick and why?

Thanks,
Mario
can you link the 65% xlnaudio deal ? the most I see is 50%
Sadly it's gone. It's been "fixed" and all XLN stuff is at around 50%.

- Mario

Inversion Of Control
KVRist
111 posts since 9 Jan, 2018

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:13 am

How would you compare them to Battery 4 and Superior Drummer 3?

mabian
KVRAF
1996 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:32 am

I think (just looking and reading around and listening) that Superior Drummer 3 is a real monster with lots of tweaking ability and degree of control. And I'm not interested in so much depth.

Battery 4 for me is strongly oriented to electronic sounds, I haven't used that much for acoustic but I could be missing a treasure who knows...

- Mario

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