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poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:49 am
Paree wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:45 am
poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:37 am
liquidsound wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:34 am
poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:27 am That is right I do not like the Serum at all and that tells you what I place vital on the level of!!!!!!!
No, actually that tells at what level you are. :D
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Hey that is not nice and uncalled for what did I do to you to make you want insult me
No offense, but in my opinion, it's unfair to call a synth trash just because it's not great at doing one type of sound. It's clearly a digital synth meant for doing complex modulation and it excels at that. This synth is godsend for making modern electronic sounds. It kind of gives false impression to a person reading this thread who is not interested in making warm analog sounds.

If you don't like the synth, fine, but dont generalize by calling it trash.
I do not call vital synth trash where you get this??? I just do not like it is all I am saying because the sound quality not my cup of the tea and especially because its filters and high cpu use. These are not a generalization
I did try the vital synth and o think it's is very overhyper and use waaaay much CPU and also sound quality is average at the best I mean those filters????? They are bad lol!
1. Overhype for your usecase. It was never advertised as a synth to make warm analog sounds.
2. The amount of modulation you can do to the filters in vital is crazy, no other synth can do this.

Is it fair for me to call something like Diva trash because I can't make modern Dubstep growls?
You can't call it bad just because it can't make your type of sounds well.
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BONES wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:36 am
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:02 am Even when moving the Vertical Res Slider ?
Vital 112420-3 .png
Correct. When I reduce the cutoff the sound is definitely being filtered, so I know the routing is correct, but moving the resonance slider has zero effect on the sound no matter which filter type I select (Ladder included). I even set up envelope modulation on the filter to try and coax a response but got nothing. This was using Filter 1, I didn't have time to do any more before I had to get to work.

What I did notice is that the mod matrix is very basic. The destination choice is just "Filter 1", which affects cutoff only. So no modulating the resonance amount or Drive value or anything else. Still, what can you expect for free?
So before even figuring out that you are doing something wrong (because resonance works as expected on my side) you already managed to write some BS like this :
"Still, what can you expect for free?"

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Paree wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:59 am
poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:49 am
Paree wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:45 am
poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:37 am
liquidsound wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:34 am
poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:27 am That is right I do not like the Serum at all and that tells you what I place vital on the level of!!!!!!!
No, actually that tells at what level you are. :D
When you don’t have teeth, you should go for a soup.
Hey that is not nice and uncalled for what did I do to you to make you want insult me
No offense, but in my opinion, it's unfair to call a synth trash just because it's not great at doing one type of sound. It's clearly a digital synth meant for doing complex modulation and it excels at that. This synth is godsend for making modern electronic sounds. It kind of gives false impression to a person reading this thread who is not interested in making warm analog sounds.

If you don't like the synth, fine, but dont generalize by calling it trash.
I do not call vital synth trash where you get this??? I just do not like it is all I am saying because the sound quality not my cup of the tea and especially because its filters and high cpu use. These are not a generalization
I did try the vital synth and o think it's is very overhyper and use waaaay much CPU and also sound quality is average at the best I mean those filters????? They are bad lol!
1. Overhype for your usecase. It was never advertised as a synth to make warm analog sounds.
2. The amount of modulation you can do to the filters in vital is crazy, no other synth can do this.

Is it fair for me to call something like Diva trash because I can't make modern Dubstep growls?
You can't call it bad just because it can't make your type of sounds well.
Once again sir I did not call the vital synth trash, go back to read my post I say I think developer did good job but not my cup of the tea, and I say filters bad and CPU is waaaay too high. I did not say is a bad synth, I do not think is necessary have an argument here I just share my opinion
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Re: VirusTotal and all

I have no problem downloading the free version on Win10 via Chrome and/or Firefox (I don't use Edge), but I get the same result posted by Teksonik: 1 positive for adware. I tend to think, it's a false positive. But I'm more hesitant with free stuff since the Analog Obsession thing happened. ;D

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poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:40 amI am after the hard ware sound synth style and this does not remake that sound at all at least not very good job at it. But maybe for people who do not care much about that thing then and just want to make the tear out style sounds on the youtube tutorials, then you will maybe be more ok with this but even still I would say go for the Serum for that because then you get better filter and still bad filters!!!
So this it’s about us (careless buyers) and really not desired in a thread dedicated to the launch of a new synth with our best wishes to the developer.
Constructive criticism vs bashing the quality of the Synth and its users.
I see....
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For the 5% people who are not finding this synth to be great, you have other options. If I were you, I'd just use the synths that I already like and I wouldn't waste my time ranting about how it doesn't sound analog when it is not supposed to. But hey, this is kvr, so kind of expected I guess.

Edit: For that one dude who keeps disliking every positive comment about this synth in this thread, get a life.
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^^^perfect!
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liquidsound wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:07 am
poopinpants wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:40 amI am after the hard ware sound synth style and this does not remake that sound at all at least not very good job at it. But maybe for people who do not care much about that thing then and just want to make the tear out style sounds on the youtube tutorials, then you will maybe be more ok with this but even still I would say go for the Serum for that because then you get better filter and still bad filters!!!
So this it’s about us (careless buyers) and really not desired in a thread dedicated to a lunch of a new synth with our best wishes to the developer.
Constructive criticism vs bashing the quality of the Synth and its users.
I see....
I hope my share my opinion did not offend you sir because you seemingly to intentionally misinterpreted my post by bolding only the parts that make your case out of context

You bold where I say "for people who do not care much" and you use it to say I am calling you a careless buyer

But you purposely miss the context of that which is plane to see in the quote!!!! Lol

Full context: "I am after the hard ware sound synth style and this does not remake that sound at all at least not very good job at it. But maybe orr people who do not care much about that thing"

So your can see I am talking not about sometime being careless, but about people who do not care as much about hard ware sound as me

And again you will notice that I did not say it is a bad synth and I definately did not bash the users

I do not know why you have some bones to pick with me sir but I am sorry but I am done with it, please kindly do not wasting my attention and energy with making up more stuff you try to put in my mouth thanks you

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No problem whatsoever but I hope you understand as well by now.
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For people having cpu usage issues, have you tried reducing oversampling?
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I think this is one of the most fun vst synths to set up. A really well thought UI can make us create sounds that we wouldn't have done with others, that's a really good point for Vital.

Then it sounds thin and very bright it's true but in fact it's awesome it makes it super easy to integrate into busy mixes. Vital in this sense sounds very modern.

I have a poly hardware synth that sounds really thick and good but I can't use it in the same way without a lot of processing and stuff.

That's why it's good to have different synths for different uses.

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Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:40 am Vital 112420-4 .png
Wow, I must really have been in a hurry this morning because I obviously never gave it time to fly out. And without an arrow to indicate there was more, I assumed that was it. It seemed at a big disconnect from the rest of the package, which looks to have gone into a lot of depth and detail.

Interestingly, someone on another thread has different issues with resonance so something weird is going on.
Igro wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:01 amSo before even figuring out that you are doing something wrong (because resonance works as expected on my side) you already managed to write some BS like this
This isn't the first synthesiser I have ever used and when cutoff works exactly as expected but resonance doesn't, I think it's reasonable to assume the problem is more than human error. I thought maybe the Init patch didn't choose low-pass by default but that wasn't it because changing the filter type didn't change anything. So, genius, you tell me where the problem is if you think I have jumped to conclusions.
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I'm getting a Windows Defender alert that tells me the plugin is a trojan. The threat is considered "severe". It's the first time I get this kind of alert from Defender, so it doesn't look good.

Even if I wanted to, I can't download it. Defender deletes it automatically.

I think I'll pass, I have SERUM anyways and I'd be surprised if it's better.

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Thanks @mytytel (Matt)! :)

This synth is a beast! It is as awesome as I imagined and more! I also thank you Matt for your true hard work and kindness of giving us all a option to get this free! :tu:

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BONES wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:06 am
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:40 am Vital 112420-4 .png
Wow, I must really have been in a hurry this morning because I obviously never gave it time to fly out. And without an arrow to indicate there was more, I assumed that was it. It seemed at a big disconnect from the rest of the package, which looks to have gone into a lot of depth and detail.

Interestingly, someone on another thread has different issues with resonance so something weird is going on.
Igro wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:01 amSo before even figuring out that you are doing something wrong (because resonance works as expected on my side) you already managed to write some BS like this
This isn't the first synthesiser I have ever used and when cutoff works exactly as expected but resonance doesn't, I think it's reasonable to assume the problem is more than human error. I thought maybe the Init patch didn't choose low-pass by default but that wasn't it because changing the filter type didn't change anything. So, genius, you tell me where the problem is if you think I have jumped to conclusions.
Might be a offending question, but did you also close the filter when moving the resonance.
It does not change the sound (much) if the filter cutoff is 100% open while moving the resonance slider...
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