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chk071
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26802 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:11 am

Is Uli responsible for Behringer's product design?

Just wondering, because I always thought that the different departments actually have their people for that. Actually, it's what Chinese companies always did (more or less) well: Copying reference designs.
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Vortifex
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2141 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:02 am

masterhiggins wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:02 am
Vortifex wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:57 pm
Why didn't Behringer just make their own design? Surely nowhere near as complex as making a new synth from scratch.
Because they rip off intellectual property so badly it makes China’s dick hard.
:D

I wonder how much of this will be forgotten when they release their CS-80 clone :hihi:

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vurt
addled muppet weed
75494 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:04 am

capitalism, its a shit business...

AnX
KVRAF
8866 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:18 am

vurt wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:04 am
capitalism, its a shit business...
no, that's sewage treatment, capitalism is very different

stimresp
KVRian
1070 posts since 1 Jul, 2008

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:28 pm

What they did to Auratone and how they sneakily took the Oberheim trademark was enough to turn me off them for good. They may be skirting the lines of legality but it's really slimy behaviour. No class whatsoever, gutter mentality.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
75494 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:01 pm

chk071 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:11 am
Is Uli responsible for Behringer's product design?
nope.
some dude at arturia apparently :hihi:

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Aliens
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1010 posts since 2 Oct, 2016 from Planet X-19

Post Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:23 pm

:hihi:

leeleema
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673 posts since 29 Jun, 2020

Post Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:58 pm

Behringer's response here:
https://www.musictech.net/news/gear/beh ... ntroversy/
Sounds like a money grabbing psychopath to be honest. He tried to sue Dave Smith in 2017 but luckily there was a good judge who ruled that the whole case was a SLAPP. Behringer seems to be using as similar tactic here, but in reverse. No doubt Behringer did a cost benefit analysis that included Arturia's ability and will to take Behringer to court as against the cost of developing a new midi keyboard (totally pointless by the way). Maybe he has a grudge against Arturia for some reason, that's how psychopaths are :P
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lfm
KVRAF
5631 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden

Post Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:22 am

leeleema wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:58 pm
Uli's response here:
I did not see a reference to anything quoted from Uli....

leeleema
KVRian
673 posts since 29 Jun, 2020

Post Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:38 am

double post, I keep replying instead of editing

leeleema
KVRian
673 posts since 29 Jun, 2020

Post Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:42 am

Here then directly by Uli in the facebook link. I changed above post to 'Behringer', replacing 'Uli'

https://www.musicradar.com/news/uli-beh ... rs-head-on

Pretty much the same as the above link. I find it slightly odd people asking whether the head of the company had anything to do with any of this given his past history and indeed, the above links.

Daags
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2249 posts since 19 Dec, 2014

Post Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:59 am

anyone who delivers value for money, has my money.

if the price & quality is (more or less) the same, by all means be precious and make your emotional attachment to one brand or another.

besides, it's not like Arturia is the brand you think of when someone says 'innovation'.

Shabdahbriah
KVRAF
5365 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle

Post Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:27 am

https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-to-c ... -theremin/
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vurt
addled muppet weed
75494 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:35 am

the behremin looks fun.

SLiC
KVRAF
6104 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:46 am

Daags wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:59 am
anyone who delivers value for money, has my money.

if the price & quality is (more or less) the same, by all means be precious and make your emotional attachment to one brand or another.

besides, it's not like Arturia is the brand you think of when someone says 'innovation'.
Eh? Some of the most interesting and original hardware synths in recent years- far more so than Roland, Yamaha and even Korg....
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