Air Music Technology's Drum Synth 500
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Hi,
Thinking of expanding my drums palette, and noticed Air Music's Drum Synth 500 is now for sale at 50 bucks at pluginboutique. With 500 samples, synthesized sounds and 500 MIDI patterns, it intrigues me.
Here's a two minute showcase (at ca 13.30): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po3MDatOoN4
Any thoughts or better deals? (I personally don't use sampled loops, so a sample loop library won't be a substitute, and I'm not looking for analog drums, but techno/synth pop/DM-ish sounds.) And yes, I get it that it will be cheaper in the future.
Thanks, and Enjoy Black Friday!
Thinking of expanding my drums palette, and noticed Air Music's Drum Synth 500 is now for sale at 50 bucks at pluginboutique. With 500 samples, synthesized sounds and 500 MIDI patterns, it intrigues me.
Here's a two minute showcase (at ca 13.30): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po3MDatOoN4
Any thoughts or better deals? (I personally don't use sampled loops, so a sample loop library won't be a substitute, and I'm not looking for analog drums, but techno/synth pop/DM-ish sounds.) And yes, I get it that it will be cheaper in the future.
Thanks, and Enjoy Black Friday!
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- KVRian
- 985 posts since 23 Oct, 2009 from Italy
I demo it, nothing special, maybe when they put @9,99 I consider to buy it
12 years old PC running :Reaper;Reason;Dune;Zampler;Kontakr;Reaktor;and many others countless vst
- KVRian
- 1008 posts since 22 Feb, 2014
It has its limitations and the UI isn't for everyone, but how about BreakTweaker Expanded for 10 bucks? https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/834
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- KVRAF
- 2629 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
Why buy anything that you know is unsupported directly after its release (more or less)? We are talking about AIR here you know. Would be a stupid move, unless you are fine with paying 50 bucks for something that will never get an update, and never be resizable.
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- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
And if you are after just the midi loops, download the update file on their website which contains all 500 midi loops. Samples you can get elsewhere, both free and paid.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Thanks! As a whole it's thirty years ahead of my music but I guess I can use it for added percussive spice if nothing else. Plus a ton of samples for ten bucks makes it a great deal even if it may not be entirely for me. As Izotope wrote "Traditional sequencing is so 1984". Well, that's about what my music sounds like.telecharge wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:12 pm It has its limitations and the UI isn't for everyone, but how about BreakTweaker Expanded for 10 bucks? https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/834
A quick question: does it respond to a MIDI track (i.e. can I use it traditionally)? In the video I saw, they make a beat and drag it to Live as an audio clip. In my mind, that makes today's music so static, so I hope it's controllable through the DAW (and not just the other way around).
Thanks a lot!
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
I wonder that as well. But it must have, I think: how else could one side-chain the BD? (Well, apart from a LP filter or so.)
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Sneaky!starflakeprj wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:20 pm And if you are after just the midi loops, download the update file on their website which contains all 500 midi loops.
(Have looked into sample libraries, but it just becomes a mess after a while I think, like downloading preset banks for Synth 1, SoundFonts etc. I mean, I just want an editable drum track that sounds ok and carries the music.)
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
- 11165 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Given AKAI and Air are the same group, I would guess the 8 part drum synth they just added free to the MPC hardware and software is basically the same thing.
https://www.akaipro.com/drumsynth
I have this installed in my MPC Live and MPC software and it sounds pretty good to me...at least as good as Maschines synth drums.
Akai MPC software 2.9 has these drums and a ton of other stuff so may also be worth looking out for on the sales, it can go very cheap, for example 40 quid with 5 MPC expansions
https://www.thomann.de/gb/akai_mpc_2_st ... 61457bb88c
https://www.akaipro.com/drumsynth
I have this installed in my MPC Live and MPC software and it sounds pretty good to me...at least as good as Maschines synth drums.
Akai MPC software 2.9 has these drums and a ton of other stuff so may also be worth looking out for on the sales, it can go very cheap, for example 40 quid with 5 MPC expansions
https://www.thomann.de/gb/akai_mpc_2_st ... 61457bb88c
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Thanks! I agree with you, having looked at Drumsynth now.SLiC wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:55 am Given AKAI and Air are the same group, I would guess the 8 part drum synth they just added free to the MPC hardware and software is basically the same thing.
https://www.akaipro.com/drumsynth
I have this installed in my MPC Live and MPC software and it sounds pretty good to me...at least as good as Maschines synth drums.
Akai MPC software 2.9 has these drums and a ton of other stuff so may also be worth looking out for on the sales, it can go very cheap, for example 40 quid with 5 MPC expansions
https://www.thomann.de/gb/akai_mpc_2_st ... 61457bb88c
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
BTW, I just got this in my email, from BPB:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2020/1 ... r-88-free/
It's a retro drum synth from AudioThing, priced at 29 euros, now free for the 99sounds/BPB readers.
Being AudioThing, it can't be bad.
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2020/1 ... r-88-free/
It's a retro drum synth from AudioThing, priced at 29 euros, now free for the 99sounds/BPB readers.
Being AudioThing, it can't be bad.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- KVRian
- 1008 posts since 22 Feb, 2014
Yes, it works like a sampler. Check out the manual. It's only 52 pages and not very dense.SparkySpark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:44 am A quick question: does it respond to a MIDI track (i.e. can I use it traditionally)?
https://www.izotope.com/content/dam/izo ... r-help.pdf
Here's an excerpt from page 11:
"There are 24 available patterns in BreakTweaker. Each pattern is assigned to a MIDI note from C2 through B3. Playing one of these notes into BreakTweaker will cause the pattern associated with that MIDI note to start playing."
The patterns can only be 2 bars long. That's one of the limitations I was referring to.
Learn BreakTweaker in 10 Minutes - https://www.izotope.com/en/learn/learn- ... nutes.html
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- KVRian
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
It seems the Drum Synth 500 contains a lot more than the SR-88 (with only "5" individual sounds).
I was quite interested recently in BOOM which is more lightweight and contains essential drum machines.
The Akai seems interesting but believe you need to own an MPC of some form.
BOOM might be the simpler, easier solution (especially with the low price).
Any other suggestions?
I was quite interested recently in BOOM which is more lightweight and contains essential drum machines.
The Akai seems interesting but believe you need to own an MPC of some form.
BOOM might be the simpler, easier solution (especially with the low price).
Any other suggestions?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
I agree. In fact, the DrumSynth 500 seems like a good and useful tool anyway (though I'd liked it more if were insanely low priced like most of Air Music's things). FWIW, I personally have no beef myself with Air Music's lack of upgrades. The XPand!2 rompler is probably what I use most, as it's so versatile and fast.yul wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:56 pm It seems the Drum Synth 500 contains a lot more than the SR-88 (with only "5" individual sounds).
I was quite interested recently in BOOM which is more lightweight and contains essential drum machines.
The Akai seems interesting but believe you need to own an MPC of some form.
BOOM might be the simpler, easier solution (especially with the low price).
Any other suggestions?
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!