(As always, absolutely independent, no money, goodies or beer involved.)
What are your experiences with LVC Audio plugins - which plugins do you like, how do you use them, which plugins do you not like
https://lvcaudio.com/plugins
How good are LVC Audio plugins?
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
There is a sale at the moment (until end of december?), so I'm starting the next round of "How good is..."
(As always, absolutely independent, no money, goodies or beer involved.)
What are your experiences with LVC Audio plugins - which plugins do you like, how do you use them, which plugins do you not like
https://lvcaudio.com/plugins
(As always, absolutely independent, no money, goodies or beer involved.)
What are your experiences with LVC Audio plugins - which plugins do you like, how do you use them, which plugins do you not like
https://lvcaudio.com/plugins
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- KVRAF
- 2234 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
LVC Audio are good.
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- KVRAF
- 5943 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Very good!
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Still hoping people might tell a bit more than "good" and "very good"... 
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- KVRAF
- 4431 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
the GUI is a bit "early 2000's SynthEdit" kinda vibe and they're a bit clunky to use for some reason, so i could never gel with them, but there's nothing wrong with them sound wise, they're excellent. i wish they developed T-Chain concept further, it seems abandoned now.
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- KVRAF
- 2234 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
The art of knowing is knowing what to ignore.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
Their flagship EQ Toned-MAX is my main EQ.
That's saying something. It's benching all the Izotope stuff, all the Waves stuff, my beloved ToneBoosters stuff. Etc. Basically, the only EQ I don't own that's not being benched by this is Fabfilter. And the reason I don't own FF is because I feel well covered with everything else including this LVC EQ. Also, I believe for pure day-to-day track and mastering use this would win a contest against FF because of the analog modeling. FF wins in depth of features for special needs.
So I guess what I'm saying is, having compared it to just about everything else, I consider this to be thereabouts the best daily driver visual EQ there is, certainly the best at this $25 price tag.
It's not perfect. I've experienced some GUI glitches (nothing show-stopping). It doesn't have an external sidechain to use with the dynamic part (although LVC may be working on this). I'd also appreciate a piano roll.
But see, it's so much faster to tell you what I think it's missing, instead of writing out the 7 pages of great stuff it has.
EDIT: I just realized there's a new version, and it now has external side chain. So scratch that from my list of criticisms.
That's saying something. It's benching all the Izotope stuff, all the Waves stuff, my beloved ToneBoosters stuff. Etc. Basically, the only EQ I don't own that's not being benched by this is Fabfilter. And the reason I don't own FF is because I feel well covered with everything else including this LVC EQ. Also, I believe for pure day-to-day track and mastering use this would win a contest against FF because of the analog modeling. FF wins in depth of features for special needs.
So I guess what I'm saying is, having compared it to just about everything else, I consider this to be thereabouts the best daily driver visual EQ there is, certainly the best at this $25 price tag.
It's not perfect. I've experienced some GUI glitches (nothing show-stopping). It doesn't have an external sidechain to use with the dynamic part (although LVC may be working on this). I'd also appreciate a piano roll.
But see, it's so much faster to tell you what I think it's missing, instead of writing out the 7 pages of great stuff it has.
EDIT: I just realized there's a new version, and it now has external side chain. So scratch that from my list of criticisms.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
What's your DAW? And do you have the analog modeling turned on?
I haven't experienced any crackles, but I did have some GUI issues on occasion. Since there's a new version that had some GUI improvements, I'd have to test some more before confirming I'm still seeing GUI problems.
Also LVC is a responsive developer. I encourage everyone to report any bugs to LVC so they can be fixed.
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- KVRAF
- 2234 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Those GUI issues are there; yet also manageable imo. Most problems happen when trying to resize or in that matter decreasing the Window. I was also able to recreate some crackles, actually even freeze the plugin within my DAW; yet this was by extreme settings and movements that I would never really do while just mixing etc. - I would still say they are useful & good sounding tools. The developer indeed has an ear for sonor digital saturation and is also pretty responsive, regarding new features, bug - reports and such.
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Obsolete462444 Obsolete462444 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=462444
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- 465 posts since 15 Apr, 2020
I own multiple LVC products. What I like about the developer: he maintains and improves his products instead of just releasing and then abandoning them. This is particularly true for Toned-Max, Limited-Z and Clipped-Max.
Toned-Max is really good in terms of sound. The previous versions suffered a bit from an ambitious, but ultimately less than optimal UI and slight lags, but the latest version seemingly addresses some of these shortcomings. Also the CPU consumption can be quite significant with the oversampling modes turned on. Hence its more usable for mastering than as a track EQ on many individual channels. Maybe an automatic offline render at highest quality setting while keeping a low realtime CPU consumption would help.
LImited-Z is actually a good limiter. You need to turn on the oversampling and ISP though. Its also a bit unorthodox, you have to drive the signal into the limiting treshold and depending on the chosen limiting style the dynamic action differs quite drastically. It could also benefit from a UI overhaul, which I believe was planned at some point.
Overall they offer great bang for the buck, especially at the current discounts. Definitely underrated, even when there are a few imperfections I hope the developer keeps improving them. So far all the major version updates have been free for existing customers, which is another reason to join LVC gang.
Toned-Max is really good in terms of sound. The previous versions suffered a bit from an ambitious, but ultimately less than optimal UI and slight lags, but the latest version seemingly addresses some of these shortcomings. Also the CPU consumption can be quite significant with the oversampling modes turned on. Hence its more usable for mastering than as a track EQ on many individual channels. Maybe an automatic offline render at highest quality setting while keeping a low realtime CPU consumption would help.
LImited-Z is actually a good limiter. You need to turn on the oversampling and ISP though. Its also a bit unorthodox, you have to drive the signal into the limiting treshold and depending on the chosen limiting style the dynamic action differs quite drastically. It could also benefit from a UI overhaul, which I believe was planned at some point.
Overall they offer great bang for the buck, especially at the current discounts. Definitely underrated, even when there are a few imperfections I hope the developer keeps improving them. So far all the major version updates have been free for existing customers, which is another reason to join LVC gang.
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- KVRAF
- 2063 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME
A bit OT, but I'd be really interested for what one would use the piano roll on an EQ. My go-to TB_EQ4 also has that feature, but I've yet to find a use case for it (tbh, I haven't really seriously looked for one, I'm using more and more non-graphical EQs anyway)
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
It's nice for problem solving, just to get a quick sense for what's happening in the track when it comes to musical notes. Can be helpful in dealing with resonances, and/or tracking things that seem to happen only on certain notes.fese wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:54 pmA bit OT, but I'd be really interested for what one would use the piano roll on an EQ. My go-to TB_EQ4 also has that feature, but I've yet to find a use case for it (tbh, I haven't really seriously looked for one, I'm using more and more non-graphical EQs anyway)
Personally, I like a sense for where I'm at in the sound spectrum. EQs always show the chart in frequencies, but as a piano player I have another different sound map in my head for the sound range of the 88 keys. Sometimes it's faster in my head to see a certain bass note and think I know what that sounds like, and I know it's around the lowest register in a bass guitar, and I know that say NS10 monitors can't render that note.
Now, if you are watching what the bass player is doing, what notes are part of the main bass riff, it might shed some clarity on how you want to treat the drum kick around it. Then if you switch over to the drum kick track, the piano roll acts as a cue to remember where the bass fundamentals are going to be. That sorta thing.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Piano roll at effect plugins I don't need but CPU load is an important factor as usually I don't buy plugins only for the master bus or mastering, I want to use them on single tracks, too.
