I'm sure there are ways round - they are the ones defaulting on license agreements if this is true so I don't owe them anything.
Image Line stopped selling VST (!?)
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- KVRAF
- 32253 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRAF
- 2663 posts since 5 Dec, 2003 from Harlan's World
I think their Lifetime Free Updates scheme is bound to cause problems like this. You amass an amazing amount of customers who expect continuous service for years without spending another dollar on your stuff.
If IL even charged just $10 per major upgrade they would probably be home free as far as financial security is concerned. But they can’t since they have always promised it for free, forever.
I hope they raised a lot of cash during their All Plugin edition sale though.
But hey, they have survived for many years now and they may have other sources of recurring revenue.
If IL even charged just $10 per major upgrade they would probably be home free as far as financial security is concerned. But they can’t since they have always promised it for free, forever.
I hope they raised a lot of cash during their All Plugin edition sale though.
But hey, they have survived for many years now and they may have other sources of recurring revenue.
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- KVRist
- 285 posts since 2 Nov, 2020
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- KVRian
- 1313 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany
People selling the whole account as you can change every detail like full name, adress and email only the birthday and the forum-nick can't be changed afaik.
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- KVRian
- 836 posts since 27 Apr, 2012
I'm admittedly not a legal person but if ceasing development of a piece of software causes you to violate the license agreement specified in its entirety by your own company I think you should probably fire the person who wrote it.
Softsynth addict and electronic music enthusiast.
"Destruction is the work of an afternoon. Creation is the work of a lifetime."
"Destruction is the work of an afternoon. Creation is the work of a lifetime."
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- KVRAF
- 3309 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
point: I bought a number of their instruments/effects primarily to be used as VSTs outside of FL Studio
counter-point: I've had so many issues with the VSTs being used outside of FL Studio that I rarely use them
The only ones I would really miss are Harmless and Vocodex.
counter-point: I've had so many issues with the VSTs being used outside of FL Studio that I rarely use them
The only ones I would really miss are Harmless and Vocodex.
the old free version may not work boots successfully on new generations of computers, instruments, and hardware
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- KVRAF
- 2700 posts since 22 May, 2017
Probably right, pdx.pdxindy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:52 pmI think it is inevitable that they stop the free lifetime updates. My guess is sooner rather than later since this news.Russell Grand wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:20 pmAh man, if they stop lifetime free updates, that'd be another punch in the throat.
Granted, I've gotten my money's worth tenfold. I guess I'm just sore from the news about their VSTs.
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- KVRAF
- 2584 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
I own everything they make...all the VSTs etc. And I use them quite a bit. I see no reason to stop using them. End of development hopefully won't be a major issue as I have been using them some time, and most all are 64 bit.
Additionally some of the resizable GUIs in the later versions are great. Whatever this means for IL, I hope the best for them moving forward.
Additionally some of the resizable GUIs in the later versions are great. Whatever this means for IL, I hope the best for them moving forward.
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- KVRist
- 285 posts since 2 Nov, 2020
Yeah let's just make up stuff.Russell Grand wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:10 pmProbably right, pdx. :(pdxindy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:52 pmI think it is inevitable that they stop the free lifetime updates. My guess is sooner rather than later since this news.Russell Grand wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:20 pmAh man, if they stop lifetime free updates, that'd be another punch in the throat. :?
Granted, I've gotten my money's worth tenfold. I guess I'm just sore from the news about their VSTs.
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 22 Apr, 2018
Well it wouldn't be LIFETIME then.Russell Grand wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:10 pmProbably right, pdx.pdxindy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:52 pmI think it is inevitable that they stop the free lifetime updates. My guess is sooner rather than later since this news.Russell Grand wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:20 pmAh man, if they stop lifetime free updates, that'd be another punch in the throat.
Granted, I've gotten my money's worth tenfold. I guess I'm just sore from the news about their VSTs.
Of course they are not gonna end it. Can you imagine the outrage?
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- KVRian
- 673 posts since 22 Apr, 2004 from Switzerland
They never claimed Lifetime free updates for their VST plugins, only for FL Studio itself.
Also Scott from Image-Line:
Also Scott from Image-Line:
While I don't agree with your logic - These guys buy and use the DAWs they like. We have plenty using FL Studio, the VST plugin availability is moot at this point.
However, why is this tiny market demographic suddenly important?
FL Studio sales have been doubling every other year for the last 8. Before that it was more like 10-20% year/year.
The product is desirable, robust and growing like a weed. We will do whatever we need to do in order to focus development on the core application.
The reason VSTs have been out of focus is they account for a tiny percentage of revenue. Single digits and we needed developers working on the core application.
What we have in mind for VSTs will take a little while.
Until then. They work as they did last month and are being updated about as frequently.
