KVR Audio

ghostwhistler · Post by **ghostwhistler** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:11 pm

Can they do the same things?

Bonus points for relating it to the VST versions since I have no interest (nor money) in ever owning the hardware.

Etienne1973 · Post by **Etienne1973** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:27 pm

Free DEXED is an almost perfect plugin version of the Yamaha DX7 Mark I. Grab it!

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:32 pm

The difference was about $180,000

You can read more here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synclavier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7

Arturia has a Synclavier emulation:

https://www.arturia.com/synclavier-v/overview

ghostwhistler · Post by **ghostwhistler** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:32 pm

Etienne1973 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:27 pm Free DEXED is an almost perfect plugin version of the Yamaha DX7 Mark I. Grab it!

Indeed. But the sound quality, to my ears, was awful

ecasasmusic2 · Post by **ecasasmusic2** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:33 pm

Synclavier - Additive synthesis, sample playback, resynthesis, basic FM. 8 layers.
DX7 - 6 operators FM (phase modullation, actually) allowing complex algorythms

Synclavier can do much more, but DX7 is better at FM.

I am talking about Arturia emulations.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:34 pm

ghostwhistler wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:32 pm
Etienne1973 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:27 pm Free DEXED is an almost perfect plugin version of the Yamaha DX7 Mark I. Grab it!
Indeed. But the sound quality, to my ears, was awful

Then you'll say the same thing about the hardware. I've owned a DX7 and TX7 and Dexed gives me all I want......

ghostwhistler · Post by **ghostwhistler** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:34 pm

Maybe so, but for me the sound was just so quiet even on full whack

ghostwhistler · Post by **ghostwhistler** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:06 pm

Teksonik wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:32 pm The difference was about $180,000

You can read more here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synclavier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7

Arturia has a Synclavier emulation:

https://www.arturia.com/synclavier-v/overview

I have that version, that's why I'm asking: not sure if it'd be redundant picking up the DX7 vst as well (dexxed notwithstanding)

Bodhisan · Post by **Bodhisan** » Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:13 am

Synclavier is head and shoulders above DX7. Oh, it can do things DX7 can’t even dream to do - and the case is not vice-versa in any stretch of the imagination.

ghostwhistler · Post by **ghostwhistler** » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:32 am

Bodhisan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:13 am Synclavier is head and shoulders above DX7. Oh, it can do things DX7 can’t even dream to do - and the case is not vice-versa in any stretch of the imagination.

Could you expand on that a little? Or a lot?

Bodhisan · Post by **Bodhisan** » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:39 pm

ghostwhistler wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:32 am
Bodhisan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:13 am Synclavier is head and shoulders above DX7. Oh, it can do things DX7 can’t even dream to do - and the case is not vice-versa in any stretch of the imagination.
Could you expand on that a little? Or a lot?

What you can do within the partials is incredibly versatile and unique, specifically being able to add as many frames within a partial to change the harmonics, tuning, etc - in a manner DX7 simply cannot do. Of course, there's the resynthesis and sample components, as well (that I don't really even use). Like most of the crap we read here, this crap is purely my opinion. Maybe I just find Synclavier much more intuitive to explore and create, whereas DX7 pretty much stays within the box (with exceptions) of the standard FM machine that the original is - of which I prefer Octopus or FM8 (the latter of which using the noise yields neat musical responses). I would suggest watching Arturia's 2nd tutorial video, and then check out the update videos. Oh, one variable DX7 has that I wish Synclavier had are the MSEGs and LFO/sequencer. Maybe in an update. That would a wonderful update for Synclavier.

Edited to say: This actually encouraged me to spend more time with DX7, and I have to take back my vice-versa comment. There are definitely things DX7 can do that you can't with Synclavier.

briefcasemanx · Post by **briefcasemanx** » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:44 pm

Is dexed better than Arturia dx7?

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:03 am

Dexed is less of a cpu hog. , simple install, no bells and whistles and it’s free ..
Oh. And it sounds great ... win/ win situation

briefcasemanx · Post by **briefcasemanx** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:13 am

gentleclockdivider wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:03 am Dexed is less of a cpu hog. , simple install, no bells and whistles and it’s free ..
Oh. And it sounds great ... win/ win situation

I already own the Arturia and I'm pretty well covered with cpu throughput, I just want to know if Dexed is actually better in sound quality.

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:19 am

Digital synths are, you guessed it, digital. With the same patch they sound the same unless you want to degrade the sound quality with emulations of a bad DAC... The huge advantage of Dexed is, that it supports MPE and thus you can play it expressively in a way even a DX7 with breath controller could never do...
The huge disadvantage is its UI compared to Arturia. Arturia also added some other extras... But MPE is the reason I more likely load Dexed...

What are the differences between the Synclavier and the DX7?