Using FX Within VST's

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KVRist
212 posts since 31 Dec, 2020

Post Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:00 am

As I learn more about Diva and similar programs I'm learning about their fx, particular with plugs in like Repro where you can modulate the effects and do all sorts of wacky stuff.

Is it good practice though to add fx on a program like diva as an aspect of the sound or patch, rather than add them in later? Isn't there a risk of fx clashing and muddying? I mean who doesn't like adding Drench to every single Repro patch?

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addled muppet weed
74956 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:15 am

it's good practice to do whatever sounds good. :shrug:
this should be your only concern.

certain synths have effects that are up there quality wise with some vstfx.
others, less so, and are more or less included to give the presets some oomph.
your ears will guide you to the truth! :ud:

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KVRAF
1722 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:24 am

There is that risk no matter where you add effects. I think the main benefits of internal effects on a VST (excluding filters and oscillator effects) are convenience and for making presets. People do complain about VST synths that come with presets all drenched in reverb.
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KVRist

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212 posts since 31 Dec, 2020

Post Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:10 pm

vurt wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:15 am
it's good practice to do whatever sounds good. :shrug:
this should be your only concern.

certain synths have effects that are up there quality wise with some vstfx.
others, less so, and are more or less included to give the presets some oomph.
your ears will guide you to the truth! :ud:
My ears know the destination, they just don't have a good road map :D

KVRAF
27111 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:16 pm

No rules there, I think. IMO, there are few onboard FX which can complete with good standalone ones though (Diva is no exception). But, hey, totally up to you.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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KVRAF
1513 posts since 19 May, 2011 from North Carolina

Post Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:15 pm

If you're not selling soundsets of course you do what you want.

But I do try to make patches that sound decent without effects, and if the effects are good I'll use them (yes - Drench :)) More to give me ideas when I hear it, but sometimes it's an integral part of the patch

That's what I like about U-he synths - one-button effects off. :)

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KVRer
12 posts since 1 Jul, 2019

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:36 pm

Internal effects can give some good ideas when trying out different presets, but most are not that good or lack parameters and thus i tend to replace them. But there are good ones out there, too :)

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