I totally agree. I've been pretty impressed with the update and Live continues to inspire me to make music. Really amazing DAW.
Ableton Live 11
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callahanryan12 callahanryan12 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=498386
- KVRer
- 12 posts since 27 Feb, 2021
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- KVRian
- 717 posts since 29 Jun, 2020
Possible bug? Try this: in arrangement view split a midi clip in two and try and edit/have all velocities of the two clips showing in the midi window. You can see the midi notes but can only see and edit velocities of those notes by selecting the bars at the top of the clip. I can't work out the reason for this oddity
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- KVRian
- 717 posts since 29 Jun, 2020
Here's another: audio clip with gain envelope recorded from session into arrangement. In the clip, you can no longer move the start point to the left if the gain envelope is at its maximum at the start point. Changing the gain envelope to zero allows you to move the start point to the left. That doesn't make any sense so I assume it's a bug. What were all the Beta testers doing again?
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- KVRian
- 617 posts since 4 Feb, 2017
Has nothing to do with splitting. You simply cannot adjust the velocity of multiple clips simultaneously.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:01 pm Possible bug? Try this: in arrangement view split a midi clip in two and try and edit/have all velocities of the two clips showing in the midi window. You can see the midi notes but can only see and edit velocities of those notes by selecting the bars at the top of the clip. I can't work out the reason for this oddity
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- KVRian
- 717 posts since 29 Jun, 2020
Do you know why this is? You can see the notes of multiple clips at once so why on earth does it only show velocity for the currently highlighted one?Rivanni wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:09 pmHas nothing to do with splitting. You simply cannot adjust the velocity of multiple clips simultaneously.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:01 pm Possible bug? Try this: in arrangement view split a midi clip in two and try and edit/have all velocities of the two clips showing in the midi window. You can see the midi notes but can only see and edit velocities of those notes by selecting the bars at the top of the clip. I can't work out the reason for this oddity
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
But why do you want to do this?! You can either change the velocity for each clip or if they are located beside each other, merge them first then select the notes you want and change their velocity.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:23 pmDo you know why this is? You can see the notes of multiple clips at once so why on earth does it only show velocity for the currently highlighted one?Rivanni wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:09 pmHas nothing to do with splitting. You simply cannot adjust the velocity of multiple clips simultaneously.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:01 pm Possible bug? Try this: in arrangement view split a midi clip in two and try and edit/have all velocities of the two clips showing in the midi window. You can see the midi notes but can only see and edit velocities of those notes by selecting the bars at the top of the clip. I can't work out the reason for this oddity
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- KVRian
- 717 posts since 29 Jun, 2020
Seems odd, don't you think? You can edit multiple notes, from different clips but not their corresponding velocities, which are in fact hidden from view. No biggie, just odd. Obviously the workaround is to merge clips, but then you lose the flexibilty of moving a labelled clip around in the arrangementEnGee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:15 pmBut why do you want to do this?! You can either change the velocity for each clip or if they are located beside each other, merge them first then select the notes you want and change their velocity.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:23 pmDo you know why this is? You can see the notes of multiple clips at once so why on earth does it only show velocity for the currently highlighted one?Rivanni wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:09 pmHas nothing to do with splitting. You simply cannot adjust the velocity of multiple clips simultaneously.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:01 pm Possible bug? Try this: in arrangement view split a midi clip in two and try and edit/have all velocities of the two clips showing in the midi window. You can see the midi notes but can only see and edit velocities of those notes by selecting the bars at the top of the clip. I can't work out the reason for this oddity
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Well, maybe they will do that in a new version! Not only clips in the same tracks but maybe a region of multiple clips vertically. Personally, I don't mind editing velocities, one clip at a timeleeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:19 pm
Seems odd, don't you think? You can edit multiple notes, from different clips but not their corresponding velocities, which are in fact hidden from view. No biggie, just odd. Obviously the workaround is to merge clips, but then you lose the flexibilty of moving a labelled clip around in the arrangement
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ReleaseCandidate ReleaseCandidate https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=476930
- KVRian
- 620 posts since 19 Oct, 2020
Just a general note: if something doesn't work as the documentation says, it's a bug.
If something isn't documented and doesn't work that's a missing feature.
If something does work and isn't documented, that's a 'bug' (error) in the documentation.
If something isn't working as it should and that is documented, you're out of luck
If something isn't documented and doesn't work that's a missing feature.
If something does work and isn't documented, that's a 'bug' (error) in the documentation.
If something isn't working as it should and that is documented, you're out of luck
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- KVRian
- 617 posts since 4 Feb, 2017
Yes, it is odd. You can edit multiple clips as far as the notes themselves are concerned, but if you want to adjust the velocity, you can't. Inconsistent.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:19 pmSeems odd, don't you think? You can edit multiple notes, from different clips but not their corresponding velocities, which are in fact hidden from view. No biggie, just odd. Obviously the workaround is to merge clips, but then you lose the flexibility of moving a labelled clip around in the arrangementEnGee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:15 pmBut why do you want to do this?! You can either change the velocity for each clip or if they are located beside each other, merge them first then select the notes you want and change their velocity.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:23 pmDo you know why this is? You can see the notes of multiple clips at once so why on earth does it only show velocity for the currently highlighted one?Rivanni wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:09 pmHas nothing to do with splitting. You simply cannot adjust the velocity of multiple clips simultaneously.leeleema wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:01 pm Possible bug? Try this: in arrangement view split a midi clip in two and try and edit/have all velocities of the two clips showing in the midi window. You can see the midi notes but can only see and edit velocities of those notes by selecting the bars at the top of the clip. I can't work out the reason for this oddity
But Ableton says it's meant this way and if I want to see it differently I have to make a feature request.
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- KVRian
- 617 posts since 4 Feb, 2017
Hmm, it is documented that a spider isn't a bug....ReleaseCandidate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:52 am Just a general note: if something doesn't work as the documentation says, it's a bug.
If something isn't documented and doesn't work that's a missing feature.
If something does work and isn't documented, that's a 'bug' (error) in the documentation.
If something isn't working as it should and that is documented, you're out of luck
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- KVRian
- 717 posts since 29 Jun, 2020
Ha, so acknowledging a bug makes it a feature . However a crucial part of a feature is that it is is actually useful. Hiding velocity when multiple clips are selected serves no useful purpose as far as I can see. Also the new midi clip 'focus' feature makes it glaringly obvious that the velocity issue is a bug, whether its been acknowledged or not. But like I said, no biggie
- KVRAF
- 3538 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
Opening several instances of Blue Cat Audio's Patchwork is crashing Live 11 regularly. Not sure if that is a Blue Cat or Live problem.
Doing nothing is only fun when you have something you are supposed to do.
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12937 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
I had a crash earlier trying to open a really basic project that I use for simple live guitar and vocals with Waves CLA Unplugged Stereo on the guitar and Waves CLA Vocals Stereo on the vocal track.
This was a Live 10 project. However if I started fresh in Live 11 and recreated the track setup it worked fine. A bit odd.
This was a Live 10 project. However if I started fresh in Live 11 and recreated the track setup it worked fine. A bit odd.
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Editing velocities from multiple clips seems like a logical extension of the present functionality. Probably just didn't make it into the first release.