Synapse's Obsession seems to do most of the sounds I'm after, and it gets me there faster than Eight Voice does. I guess I'll just have to wait for GForce OB-E windows verBONES wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:39 am I think that's a little unfair. I'd rate them as above average in terms of sound. They may not have the super-slick GUI of a U-He plugin or the incredible attention to detail of Synapse's emulations or the massive preset libraries people seem to expect these days but they are definitely better than "middle of the road".
Here's an interesting thought, let's compare apples to apples. First up, if you compare the sound of Eight Voice to that of bx_oberhausen, which can also regularly be had for $29, it requires a LOT more work to get it to sound anywhere near as good, especially for unison patches. Where bx_oberhausen has the TMT switch to fatten it up and make it all warm and fuzzy, Eight Voice requires you to go in and spend an inordinate amount of time doing it yourself. And after you've done all that, it still doesn't sound as good, even though you know it can if only you could get the offsets all right. It really does need some simple method of unlocking it's potential, like Brainworx's TMT switch or the "Analog" knob on Obsession. Without it, Cherry are selling their creation short because it is pretty damned good overall.
Another comparison I'd make is against Cherry's own CA2600 which, to my ears has a much more convincing sound. Eight Voice's presets sound great but when you try to make your own patches, again you have to work really hard to get it into the same ballpark as CA2600. I think DCO-106 is also a helluva lot easier to get good sounds from (which is a surprise, given that I've never rated anything Juno). (For the record, I don't like anything about Polymode.)
For now, I see Eight Voice as having a lot of potential but it absolutely needs some way of unlocking it. It has nothing to do with how much it is, because it's the same price as Cherry's other plugins, it is purely about making it easier to work with so that its full potential can be tapped. I'd happily pay double for it if they could implement a feature like that and make it work.
Cherry Audio releases massive new Eight Voice synthesizer!
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- KVRist
- 340 posts since 21 Feb, 2017
- KVRian
- 710 posts since 9 Apr, 2005 from Japan
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 8 Jan, 2021
- KVRAF
- 2845 posts since 8 Jun, 2018
perhaps, i am curious, this helps:
"We generally suggest using the 48 kHz default rate for best overall performance, but if you have the processor horsepower, feel free to try 96 kHz mode."
(found here: https://docs.cherryaudio.com/cherry-aud ... e/settings
for the standalone version, of course within a DAW, it must be done via project settings. or oversampling, i think FL studio can do it. and some meta-plugins..)
helps for what; the 'dull' sound. if it exists. i can't judge it for myself.
"We generally suggest using the 48 kHz default rate for best overall performance, but if you have the processor horsepower, feel free to try 96 kHz mode."
(found here: https://docs.cherryaudio.com/cherry-aud ... e/settings
for the standalone version, of course within a DAW, it must be done via project settings. or oversampling, i think FL studio can do it. and some meta-plugins..)
helps for what; the 'dull' sound. if it exists. i can't judge it for myself.
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- KVRist
- 41 posts since 4 Feb, 2019
This comment tipped me to buy the synth. I concede that the Eight Voice doesn't sound as nice as OB-E but its workflow (being able to program EIGHT INDEPENDENT sound modules and cycle through them sequentially) is something that I don't have with my existing synths (software or hardware).
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Have you not tried bx_oberhausen? I haven't touched Obsession since I got that.SiliconDeath wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:22 pmSynapse's Obsession seems to do most of the sounds I'm after, and it gets me there faster than Eight Voice does. I guess I'll just have to wait for GForce OB-E windows ver
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- KVRist
- 315 posts since 4 May, 2019
Oberhousen is great but does not support per-voice variation and round robining (without something like Bitwig's voice selector.) But I am puzzled over the preference for the 8 voice over obsession, too -- the architecture is similar, but has many more features, and it has a neally nice (could be nicer, though) UI for building in the per-voice variations that seem to be the selling point of the 8 voice. Is it that the 8 voice sounds more upfront (like the Oberhousen, which I agree is excellent and too often overlooked.) The oberhousen would be very cool with per voice modulations in the matrix and the availability of voice index and random modulators... with those you could get to some of the interesting 8 voice/ obsession sounds.
All things equal and knowing that it is personal preference, I've been going nuts with poly synth patch programming on Obsession. I can get these detuned, hazy, vangelis-esque (dare I say better?) pad sounds with Obsession that just have me playing a single patch for an hour without hitting record. And it has MPE....
But I'm old enough to have seen, played and lusted after an 8 voice on 49th street in Manhattan. They are amazing instruments and this is a very good emulation. I've bought the other CA standalones and will get this one too.
All things equal and knowing that it is personal preference, I've been going nuts with poly synth patch programming on Obsession. I can get these detuned, hazy, vangelis-esque (dare I say better?) pad sounds with Obsession that just have me playing a single patch for an hour without hitting record. And it has MPE....
But I'm old enough to have seen, played and lusted after an 8 voice on 49th street in Manhattan. They are amazing instruments and this is a very good emulation. I've bought the other CA standalones and will get this one too.
- KVRian
- 710 posts since 9 Apr, 2005 from Japan
Eight Voice and Obsession are emulations of completely different synths. Neither one is a substitute for the other.
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- KVRist
- 46 posts since 6 Dec, 2020
If an OB-X emulation is easier for you to work with than a SEM8 emulation, I doubt a different SEM8 emulation will change much.SiliconDeath wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:22 pm Synapse's Obsession seems to do most of the sounds I'm after, and it gets me there faster than Eight Voice does. I guess I'll just have to wait for GForce OB-E windows ver
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- KVRAF
- 1574 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
It's not a hard fix. I realize you want to argue over absolutely pointless stuff on the internet so go ahead. I won't be reading your response cause I actually have better things to do.Teksonik wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:13 amKeywords there ? "unlikely" and "almost assuredly".briefcasemanx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:03 am Having an offset to the linked value is very unlikely to be a difficult thing to code, if the original code isn't written in some godawful way. It's almost assuredly a relatively simple fix.
Probably wouldn't have been hard to make a 16 or 32 step sequencer or add a traditional Arp since they have a rack module already but they didn't. Those would get my vote long before "offset to the linked value".
Again we don't all get the features we want in a $29 plugin and we don't all want the same thing so....
- KVRAF
- 18561 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Yet you had nothing better to do than "argue over absolutely pointless stuff on the internet" today?briefcasemanx wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:24 pm It's not a hard fix. I realize you want to argue over absolutely pointless stuff on the internet so go ahead. I won't be reading your response cause I actually have better things to do.
Ok whatever Brother........
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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
I got the new SEM module for Voltage Modular. It comes with a mono and a poly version of the module. https://store.cherryaudio.com/bundles/s ... ule-bundle
Still running the demo of 8-voice.
The price is right for either. Or both.
Still running the demo of 8-voice.
The price is right for either. Or both.
Windows 10 and too many plugins