Do you buss your Kick with Bass or with Drums?

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KVRian
1294 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:33 pm

I only use one bus; the stereo bus. I also don't use automation either. Just saying it's up to the producer; there are no written rules. But keep in mind that most producer tricks are about compensation. The more one compensates, the more compensation skills one needs to learn. Things quickly can become one big mess that way.

KVRAF
3737 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:14 pm

excuse me please wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:33 pm
I also don't use automation either.
At all - ever? :o

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KVRian
1294 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Post Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:36 pm

MogwaiBoy wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:14 pm
excuse me please wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:33 pm

I also don't use automation either.
At all - ever? :o
I know it's a bit silly, but somehow it does not work out for me when I apply all those techniques. Maybe it's my processor or there is something wrong with my system. I don't know.

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KVRist
231 posts since 2 Sep, 2012

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:53 am

With the drums.

KVRian
1031 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:16 am

I buss mine with the bass because they occupy the same octave range and this makes more sense to me than grouping with the rest of the drums which are much higher up the spectrum, generally speaking.
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KVRist
37 posts since 1 Jun, 2019

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:55 am

My default workflow is to buss all drum sounds together to control and process them as a kit, but I might take the kick out and put it with the bass to meld them together with (fairly transparent) clipping or bouncy compression, especially if I’m doing 4x4 stuff.

Mostly I make drum & bass and a lot of the sidechaining needs to be as transparent as possible. For the sidechaining effect I just put a volume shaper on the bass buss. (And music buss.)

I will buss together kick layers and same with snare and then send them to drum buss. As with the overall drum mix it makes for easier level balancing and common colouring.

Best tip I can give is to stick a clipper on the master and push it until it’s obviously distorting, and work from there to see how much distortion you can get rid of. It will become clear which sounds need to be adjusted when you smash the mix. Can also do this with a limiter if you prefer.

KVRian
1008 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from there

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:11 am

Really depends on what is needed.
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KVRAF
5314 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand

Post Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:03 pm

Mostly I put all drums together (if I use a group at all) and compress them together. Bass on its own.

As for sidechaining - it's a fad. It works for some and good luck to them, but it's not essential for anything. I'd hoped that awful fad for ducking whole tracks with the kick had died - plenty of songs were ruined with it. EDM and anything else does not NEED it. You have the option, but it's just that - an option.

As for having 3 basslines - oh please...

KVRAF
1622 posts since 26 Aug, 2012

Post Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:47 am

You recent 2021 commenters forgot to get in your time machines and go back to 2015

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KVRist
60 posts since 19 Apr, 2021

Post Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:56 am

r4ndom wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:39 pm
Hey guys, just wondering if you prefer to compress and process your kicks with your basses or with your other drums?

Is it ever processed both ways? For example does anybody ever send their kick and bass to a buss, process that but then also route their kick to another buss for drums? If so, how does this not mess up the sound?
I usually group my drums together and run them through a Bus Comp. Depends on the sound I want though.
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KVRist
60 posts since 19 Apr, 2021

Post Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:45 pm

Kinh wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:47 am
You recent 2021 commenters forgot to get in your time machines and go back to 2015
You seem like a negative person, try to look at life more on the bright side.

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