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SHall1000 · Post by **SHall1000** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:17 am

Or is it SynthMaster, Avenger, Rapid, Falcon?
What needs to be added to make it the best?

Peraqsha · Post by **Peraqsha** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:27 am

I think the best do-it-all (DIA?) synth is the one that works for you.

Probably not the answer you're wanting.

SHall1000 · Post by **SHall1000** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:29 am

I think some devs are trying to produce the DIA, just interested how close they might be getting.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:36 am

I think what pulls it clear of those is that it's actually fun to use, and has a well thought out concept.

SHall1000 · Post by **SHall1000** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:40 am

Agreed. I wonder if adding in more “stuff” might spoil that.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:40 am

There is none.
As has been stated, it's the one that works best for you for such duties.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:43 am

Define 'do it all'

What if I want 4 oscillators (perhaps to FM) and 3 filters...the list gets shorter,,,,

SHall1000 · Post by **SHall1000** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:57 am

So you would like Arturia to add a fourth oscillator another filter and an FM option and Pigments would be your DIA?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 am

I like it how it is. No need to add complexity for complexity's sake.

Niowiad · Post by **Niowiad** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:15 am

I definitely love Pigments but I don't consider it a "do it all synth".
I agree It's great for what it already does, although they sure were able to surprise me both with the v2 and v3 updates which expanded the feature-set and capabilities.

In that category I would probably only list Falcon and MSoundFactory, not sure what else.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:19 am

Reaktor too, but it's totally valid if someone doesn't see it (or the aforementioned Melda and UVI synths) as the most perfect solution for everything. Like myself for instance

Niowiad · Post by **Niowiad** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:23 am

Reaktor... absolutely... I had the feeling I left something out

There might sure be more left out, but can't think of anything else at the moment.
But everything in the list probably tends to have some kind of "modular" approach.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:48 am

Niowiad wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:23 am Reaktor... absolutely... I had the feeling I left something out

There might sure be more left out, but can't think of anything else at the moment.
But everything in the list probably tends to have some kind of "modular" approach.

I would add Phase Plant and Halion to that list as a standard easy to use do any VSTs.
Voltage Modular (as a VST plug in) offers a lot as well, but is properly a 'modular' (which is maybe its own category) and Reaktor could be considered a programming environment (its own thing!) or a modular synth with blocks.

Surge 1.9 should get a mention as a 'do it all' synth as its FREE and utterly amazing (they even just added MI Clouds to it!)

DJErmac · Post by **DJErmac** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:06 pm

SHall1000 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:29 am I think some devs are trying to produce the DIA, just interested how close they might be getting.

Imho Avenger is the closest. They’re now implementing complex sampling system for the next expansion. It can do excellent granular, and its synthesis is way more advanced than Falcon.
I’m not only talking purely technical (for example it’s cool to have 250 granular modes, but if they all su<k...), I’m talking real results. Just hear it by yourself.

DPhil · Post by **DPhil** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:16 pm

As a heavy Falcon user it's the best for me. Followed by Synthmaster. Avenger is last. Still not stable and the cp hunts down many customers. Rapid in between but on a good track looking at its development. Pigments 2 was already interesting, v3 has added some more stuff (I heard borrowed from e.g. Vital). Definitely like it from a operating point. Falcon ont the other hand can be overwhelming sometimes.

Is Pigments 3 the best do it all Synth?