Bitwig

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:16 am

That's a pretty unfortunate placement of KvR poll with regards to Bitwig's banner

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SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:41 am

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:43 am

If you answer the survey question the banner goes away.

anoise · Post by **anoise** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:51 pm

It's Friday! Where is Bitwig 4?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:19 pm

I have given up looking/waiting/expecting - past performance is no indicator of future performance as they say!
Could be July!

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:19 pm

I have given up looking/waiting/expecting - past performance is no indicator of future performance as they say! Could be July, so focusing on Bitwig 'as is' (and new other toys

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Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:20 pm

The bitwig subscription is better than shopping, you buy not only the product, but also one year(!!) of the lifetime of the developers.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:29 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:20 pm...you buy not only the product, but also one year(!!) of the lifetime of the developers.

So what you're saying is that I own slaves now?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:31 pm

Yeh, but they could just be sat around drinking beer for that 1 year

wavedigit · Post by **wavedigit** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:12 pm

Isn't the license a subscription on updates though?

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:34 pm

wavedigit wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:12 pm Isn't the license a subscription on updates though?

Probably it's better to see it as a "Renewal of Membership for free updates"

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:00 pm

liquidsound wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:34 pm
wavedigit wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:12 pm Isn't the license a subscription on updates though?
Probably it's better to see it as a "Renewal of Membership for free updates"

Exactly. The idea is you upgrade when features as-is are worth it and get 1 year of updates "free". I actually wish they'd drop the version numbers and e.g. used date, like Linux or Windows do nowadays. That would help people liberate from that mindset of "versions" and would maybe also put some pressure on devs because it's easy to see when the last big update was

Rivanni · Post by **Rivanni** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:24 pm

It is a subscription. However not one to use the program but to receive updates. Still a subscription though.

Rivanni · Post by **Rivanni** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:27 pm

In every Bitwig topic its about subscriptions and the update plan. It's really laughable.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:36 pm

Rivanni wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:24 pm It is a subscription. However not one to use the program but to receive updates. Still a subscription though.

The problem is the way the term “subscription” works for different companies such as with Phaseplant where if you stop subscribing your plugins stop working while in Bitwig you can still use it to the end of time.
That’s why many inquirers are cautious with the model even though it’s explained in all kinds of ways but still, as usual, a negative thought can destroy 1000 positive thoughts.

So, probably “membership” or a “yearly/annual pass” it’s a better term.

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Bitwig is NOT a subscription