lfm wrote: ↑
Tue May 11, 2021 7:31 am
I would be suprised if XD did not have what Prologue have
- knob value shown in display as you tweak it
- a star in front of value and arrows show where the stored value of current preset is
Of course it does but that doesn't allow you to look at the front panel and know how the patch was made, nor does it allow you to just grab a knob and twist, which are the only two reasons I can see to to have knob-per-function.
So coming back to a preset, you can dial in what is stored nicely and continue working on it - and separate knobs for each envelope makes all the difference.
Why? I find it easier to have the four knobs in Uno that become ADSR in the exact same place, and just swap between them with a button press.
Personally I do a lot of fine tuning envelopes with one hand on attack on amp and other on filter - to find sweetspot. Just have arpeggiator running to hear as you tweak. I go by ear alone for this.
How else would you go?
Same with decay and envelope amount and frequency cutoff.
What you get is highly dependent on relationship between these.
- increase envelope amount but lower frequency a bit
- the dynamic transistion makes all the difference for me
- sometimes a very narrow range to like or indifference
Absolutely but, the thing is, it's no harder on Uno or Uno Pro than it is on something like a Minilogue. In fact, I find it easier because everything is right there in front of me, there's no moving around from place to place on the interface. (I'm a lyricist, rhyming comes naturally to me.)
I saw this comparison between DeepMind and Juno 106, and just for having separate sliders for envelopes would make you take Juno.
Except the Juno 106 only has one envelope, so only one set of ADSR sliders.
Press a button and then tweak knob, and press to other envelope and tweak knob again - ruins the fun for me.
If I want to have fun, I'll find a dog to kick, patching synths is pure tedium.
And to even compare a paraphonic where envelopes are shared among keys pressed as a chord is just weird, like on Uno Pro or any paraphonic. Doing an arpeggiated chord, all keys down at end - useless. Envelopes are already gone and the other keys are on/off - at sustain point.
You know, I'd have said the same thing, although for different reasons, before I got my Uno Pro but playing some of the paraphonic patches has completely changed my mind. Especially ones that use cool tricks like making the second oscillator an octave higher/lower. Unexpected stuff like that is much more like fun to me. My problem with using Rocket or Pulse 2 in paraphonic mode was how much weaker the sound was but that is a total non-issue with Uno Pro. I have more than one synth so not being able to play chords normally is a total non-issue for me. (I'd only ever hold a bass note and play a riff over it, I never play proper chords.)
Envelopes are such a vital part IMO.
Depends what you are doing, most of the time I have my amp envelope completely open and let the filter envelope do all the work. That's how I deal with Juno 106 only having one envelope - I use it for the filter and set the VCA to GATE. Doesn't work for pads, though (no release).
I saw the B stock price yesterday, too, but wasn't yet tempted (shipping is $150 to Australia). If anything, that video puts me off because I have less than no interest in searching for and installing extra waveforms or effects set-ups. I want everything to be in the box when I buy it so I can get to work on patching it. The video also reminded me that the filter on Minilogue is LP only, which is definitely off-putting. I still have to sit down and nut out which filter set-ups on Uno Pro will give me bandpass and notch filters but I've always enjoyed a good modulated notch filter, like the one that comes in at 3:27 in this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig-O-cBgHgE