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Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:02 pm

That snake oil guy on his M1 plug-ins:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdhmFspXaU

george · Post by **george** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:10 pm

Fleer wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:02 pm That snake oil guy on his M1 plug-ins:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdhmFspXaU

Effects only, no instruments at all.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:41 am

discoDSP wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:10 pm
Fleer wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:02 pm That snake oil guy on his M1 plug-ins:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdhmFspXaU
Effects only, no instruments at all.

He's a mixing engineer, so I doubt he uses instrument.

bardaxx · Post by **bardaxx** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:00 pm

Stupid question but, If I use an Apple silicon plugin inside Live 11 that run on Rosetta, the plugin run native or via rosetta?

Serhii Kot · Post by **Serhii Kot** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:58 am

bardaxx wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:00 pm Stupid question but, If I use an Apple silicon plugin inside Live 11 that run on Rosetta, the plugin run native or via rosetta?

Via Rosetta

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:28 pm

bardaxx wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:00 pm Stupid question but, If I use an Apple silicon plugin inside Live 11 that run on Rosetta, the plugin run native or via rosetta?

DAWs running under Rosetta can only host Intel plugins. This is important to note, given that at least one VST developer (Synapse) has chosen NOT to provide universal binaries, which means that you have to decide which version of the plugins to install - native or Intel. This means that if you installed the native versions, you cannot use them in a DAW running under Rosetta. In the case of Synapse, they are presently only providing native AUs, so it is probably possible to install the native AU, and the Intel VST.

By the way, the reverse it not always true. DAWs running native can often host Intel plugins via a Rosetta2 bridge. Logic Pro can. Reaper can do this with VSTs but not AUs. I believe native Bitwig can host Intel plugins. Not sure about Digital Performer.

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:04 pm

Confirmed for Bitwig 4 (in beta currently)...

teilo wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:28 pm
bardaxx wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:00 pm Stupid question but, If I use an Apple silicon plugin inside Live 11 that run on Rosetta, the plugin run native or via rosetta?
DAWs running under Rosetta can only host Intel plugins. This is important to note, given that at least one VST developer (Synapse) has chosen NOT to provide universal binaries, which means that you have to decide which version of the plugins to install - native or Intel. This means that if you installed the native versions, you cannot use them in a DAW running under Rosetta. In the case of Synapse, they are presently only providing native AUs, so it is probably possible to install the native AU, and the Intel VST.

By the way, the reverse it not always true. DAWs running native can often host Intel plugins via a Rosetta2 bridge. Logic Pro can. Reaper can do this with VSTs but not AUs. I believe native Bitwig can host Intel plugins. Not sure about Digital Performer.

kelvyn · Post by **kelvyn** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:06 pm

Not sure if anyone has suggested this yet - kinda daunting to read through pages and pages - but Plug-in Gurus ‘Unify’ is a life saver. All the instrument plugins that don’t work or don’t show up in Logic Pro X - arrange page or plugin manager - work as vst’s in ‘Unify’.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:11 pm

kelvyn wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:06 pm Not sure if anyone has suggested this yet - kinda daunting to read through pages and pages - but Plug-in Gurus ‘Unify’ is a life saver. All the instrument plugins that don’t work or don’t show up in Logic Pro X - arrange page or plugin manager - work as vst’s in ‘Unify’.

There are a number VSTs that can act as a bridge like this, but Unify is definitely one fo the best and most cost effective. Though this is not really an Apple Silicon vs. Intel thing.

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:15 pm

Unify is not Universal yet so the functionality on M1 Macs might be limited

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:17 pm

cadiz wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:15 pm Unify is not Universal yet so the functionality on M1 Macs might be limited

If Plugin-Guru could release a native version of Unify that could also do Rosetta2 bridging for all AUs, VSTs, and VST3s, that would be an incredible help during this chaotic transition period.

BoogerSnot · Post by **BoogerSnot** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:21 am

Valhalla effects are all official:

https://valhalladsp.com/2021/05/31/all- ... ompatible/

The "beta" seems to imply they are still in beta, to me at least, which might keep people away.

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:00 am

Sugar Bytes Egoist:

v1.5.8 - Native Apple Silicon support

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:49 pm

BoogerSnotOrchestra wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:21 am Valhalla effects are all official:

https://valhalladsp.com/2021/05/31/all- ... ompatible/

The "beta" seems to imply they are still in beta, to me at least, which might keep people away.

Ok.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:01 pm

cadiz wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:00 am Sugar Bytes Egoist:

v1.5.8 - Native Apple Silicon support

All Sugar Bytes plugins have been native for some time, as noted on my OP.

Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects