Hardware synths with physical modeling and MPE?

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KVRist
93 posts since 14 Mar, 2018

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:37 pm

Any good hardware synths with physical modeling and preferably mpe?

I love instruments that sound organic and like traditional instruments. For example, the Audio modeling swam instruments are great. For guitars, orange tree samples are fantastic.

But I am so sick of lag issues on these software instruments. And when issues happen while performing live it's just embarrassing. I need something more reliable, so I'm hoping a hardware synth will do the trick. But the hardware synths I'm looking at none sound organic.

Can you help? Thanks!

KVRist

Topic Starter

93 posts since 14 Mar, 2018

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:02 pm

I don't think it has mpe support, but the ANYMA PHI sounds pretty great:

https://www.aodyo.com/anyma-phi-produit-191.html

KVRian
569 posts since 28 Mar, 2017

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:07 pm

The Haken Continuum (as well as the Mini or the Slim), via the EaganMatrix (which is, at least in some facets, a physical modelling engine), will get you there.

Beyond that, any wavetable synth with a robust modulation matrix and MPE support should get you close enough, with a little know-how and some time spent designing patches. I've heard very convincing, expressive solo strings, brass, and other acoustic sounds from both the Argon8 and Hydrasynth, for example. A step above that would be synths like the Waldorf Iridium. Even a multitimbral rompler that supports multisamples with good mod options would bridge the gap. I've seen the new Roland MC-707 used this way with good results.

Then there's modular... Mutable Instruments: Braids, Beads, and Plaits would each make for a good timbral starting point. That, and the donation of a kidney. :wink:

True, dedicated physical modelling of specific instruments though... Ya, I can't think of any hardware that's doing that off the top of my head.

Cheers!

KVRist

Topic Starter

93 posts since 14 Mar, 2018

Post Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:20 am

Thanks John. I'll check those out.

I do love the sound of the continuum, but I've heard it's a huge bear to use. Not user friendly at all. Especially if you're just using it as a sound generator, and not playing the hardware instrument that comes with it, that it's configured for.

KVRist

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93 posts since 14 Mar, 2018

Post Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:21 am

The korg z1 seems decent.

Check out the lead guitar:
https://youtu.be/oD182tI2lfI?t=258

woodwind:
https://youtu.be/oD182tI2lfI?t=485

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KVRist
344 posts since 16 Sep, 2005

Post Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:59 am

Korg Volca Drum

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KVRAF
6066 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:33 pm

Yamaha VP1, the classic. Only 9 had been built though, I guess hard to find/afford… A VL70m would be easier to get…
A continuum mini with the Eagan Matrix works nicely, or if you like to shell out more the Expressivee Osmose…
I would call a laptop or mac mini running Plasmonic a reasonable hardware. I could help you to set it up in a way that it doesn’t run anything else and directly boots into Bitwig 8-track with Plasmonic ready to play… (at the moment my favorite physical MPE toy…)
Or an iPad with Respiro running…

KVRist

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93 posts since 14 Mar, 2018

Post Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:07 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:33 pm
I would call a laptop or mac mini running Plasmonic a reasonable hardware. I could help you to set it up in a way that it doesn’t run anything else and directly boots into Bitwig 8-track with Plasmonic ready to play… (at the moment my favorite physical MPE toy…)
Or an iPad with Respiro running…
That's a really great offer. This is probably what I need to do, as I have several VST's that I'm in love with (Audio modeling, equator, orange tree guitar series, guitar rig, etc).

Thanks so much! I'll pm you.

KVRer
1 posts since 9 Sep, 2021

Post Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:04 pm

Yamaha VL1 or VL1m are great.

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