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Brandon203113 · Post by **Brandon203113** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:46 pm

Hey guys lately i've been looking for ways to widen my 808s, i was trying to use izotope imager but i felt like it was pretty lifeless and there wasn't that much movement, should i be using a chorus or a doubler or something?

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:04 pm

umm the rhythms out of 808 or some specific drum from 808?
There are various techniques, like splitting the signal into two and using some stereo effect on the higher part of spectrum, or combine stereofx with some heavier saturation, or even use another drum for the mid-treble part, eq them together..

Dust_NL · Post by **Dust_NL** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:23 pm

I’m not that experienced yet, so hope this helps: In Ableton I use an effect rack with 2 chains. On Both I use a delay, but on is set to 100% right and the other one to 100% left. This widens my hats, but also can be used on other sounds too. I beleave it’s a HaaS like effect, but I’m not sure.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:49 pm

Layering.

dalisaur · Post by **dalisaur** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:59 am

Dust_NL wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:23 pm I’m not that experienced yet, so hope this helps: In Ableton I use an effect rack with 2 chains. On Both I use a delay, but on is set to 100% right and the other one to 100% left. This widens my hats, but also can be used on other sounds too. I beleave it’s a HaaS like effect, but I’m not sure.

this was super helpful thanks man!

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:12 am

legendCNCD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:04 pm umm the rhythms out of 808 or some specific drum from 808?

It's hip-hop/trap/bass music speak for an 808 kick drum sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrylawhe-Qs

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:02 pm

@ghettosynth ok - for me if someone says 808 it means the drum machine as a whole

NAD · Post by **NAD** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:40 pm

Yeah kids these days...
I have a feeling that OP is referring to the style of bass line sound that is inspired by the 808 kick but isn't necessarily a sample.

Dust_NL · Post by **Dust_NL** » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:11 am

dalisaur wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:59 am this was super helpful thanks man!

Glad I could help. You have to fiddle a little with the parameters to get it to sound the way you want. But this does the trick for me in certain situations.

hesnotthemessiah · Post by **hesnotthemessiah** » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:34 pm

Melda Production's MUtility is a free plugin that I sometimes use to widen the stereo field of my 808s, 909s etc. Great for claps. Just insert MUtility on the audio channel, then select which audio channel MUtility is to affect by selecting either "Left" or "Right" from it's right hand side panel. Then you can tweak the delay settings on the main panel to widen the stereo field.

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:11 pm

Do you check if the widening is ok in mono?

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:38 pm

I find the kilohearts distortion with it's stereo bias control is great for creating mono-compatible stereo spread.

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:39 pm

hesnotthemessiah · Post by **hesnotthemessiah** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:14 pm

legendCNCD wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:11 pm Do you check if the widening is ok in mono?

I usually check. Usually no issue.

Azbest · Post by **Azbest** » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:46 pm

Dust_NL wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:23 pm I’m not that experienced yet, so hope this helps: In Ableton I use an effect rack with 2 chains. On Both I use a delay, but on is set to 100% right and the other one to 100% left. This widens my hats, but also can be used on other sounds too. I beleave it’s a HaaS like effect, but I’m not sure.

One thing to note with this technique is to check mono compatibility. If you dial it in wrong it will sound like ass. I also wouldn't recommend doing it on sub frequencies (which the 808 kick is).

The way I'd do it is saturate the sub (808 whatever), split it into 2 channels with crossover at around 200-ish Hz. Then apply widening effects to the upper signal, sum it back into 1 channel and compress.

Suggestions for widening 808s?