Why still so much Intel?

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KVRAF
29280 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed May 19, 2021 7:40 am

codec_spurt wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 2:50 pm
also hoping that the GPU market recovers after the summer
I'm somewhat doubtful. It's really insane. Even a big German supermarket, which always was known for bargains in terms of the stuff they offered, sells computers for 2.000 to 3.000 € now. Seems like people have enough money and demand.

At the moment, I can only plan to spend more than I wanted to spend. Doubt that the market will relax within the next couple of years. If ever. To me, it appears as if they just waited to raise the prices.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRAF
4115 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific

Post Sat May 22, 2021 11:01 am

cron wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 6:39 am
Massive X is the only piece of software I’m aware of that demands AVX (not AVX2) as a minimum requirement. It’s a vanishingly rare demand. Y
Actually, that is not true. IK MODO Drum - for example - needs a CPU with AVX instructions. There are probably others and will be more in the life of any CPU you buy now.

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102 posts since 23 Jul, 2021

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:04 am

Still really unclear. If I upgrade, regardless of price, I want at least double the handling quality and I've been told that is unrealistic.

I have a 4770k. It's fine for the most part. If I upgrade, am I not still going to run into the age ol' chestnut of the first core getting the brunt of the work? So if so, then what is the real difference between the two? Is an AMD core handling of that pressure better? I gave up on benchmarks a long time ago as they don't seem to translate to real-world audio processing.

KVRian
1126 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:10 am

Been looking from i7-4960X X79 Intel side to...

Ryzen 9 5950X 829
Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gamign 270 https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph16348/dpc.png
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600 MHz 64 Gt 379
Noctua NH-D15 115
Samsung 980 PRO 2TB 7000/5100MB/s 430
Crucial BX500 2 TB SATA III 194
Seasonic Prime PX 850 W Platinum 260
RME HDSPe AIO Pro 735
Fractal Design Define 7 160
3372e

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Thats a list of parts I collected. There is no way I'm going to X299 - it seems quite dead and high DPC.
Soft Knees - Demoscene - Live 10 - Diva - Omnisphere - Slate Digital VSX - TDR - Kush Audio - Fabfilter - PA - Valhalla - Fuse - Pulsar - NI - OekSound etc...

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KVRian
595 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:53 am

legendCNCD wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:10 am

Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gamign 270
The X570 have a noise/fragile small chipset fan, get the B550 model.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDyqqs ... 0-e-gaming
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600 MHz 64 Gt 379
The best(good performance and less headaches) RAM you can get is
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7ZWBD3 ... 2g36c16u4b
Crucial BX500 2 TB SATA III 194
The MX500 is much better and only +- $10 more expensive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nF8j4D ... 0mx500ssd1
Fractal Design Define 7 160
Add one more 140mm fan in the front
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/byjJ7P ... cfan00124a
Thats a list of parts I collected. There is no way I'm going to X299 - it seems quite dead and high DPC.
I do not know any AMD B550/X570 with bad DPC, it depends on the BIOS
settings, drivers and the stuff installed, the LESS stuff we have running in
the background, better it is.
Here with my tweaked Asus TUF B550 with a very castrated Windows 10.

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Services I do not need are disabled, Windows update is disabled with
https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-upd ... cker-v1-6/
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Only the necessary(for *me*) stuff is running
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BTW, you will need a GPU.

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102 posts since 23 Jul, 2021

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:03 am

Man, that is some impressive optimizing!

However:

"The MX500 is much better and only +- $10 more expensive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nF8j4D ... 0mx500ssd1"

Could you elaborate please? I've had amazing performance on my old 750GB samsung :)

KVRAF
2756 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:27 am

hitherepeople wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:04 am
If I upgrade, am I not still going to run into the age ol' chestnut of the first core getting the brunt of the work?
You probably will, some DAW's just work that way.

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102 posts since 23 Jul, 2021

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:30 am

Passing Bye wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:27 am
hitherepeople wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:04 am
If I upgrade, am I not still going to run into the age ol' chestnut of the first core getting the brunt of the work?
You probably will, some DAW's just work that way.
Figured. I wish I knew for sure. Mostly this computer works really well. TOTALLY got my moneys worth and a lot more. But it's been a while, daddy wants a new computer :)

KVRAF
2756 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:36 am

:hihi:

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KVRian
595 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:02 am

hitherepeople wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:03 am
Man, that is some impressive optimizing!
Yes, I also use NTlite to create a castrated Windows installation ISO.
Here my configuration for NTlite, plus some registry tweaks.
Some Windows services can only be disabled AFTER Windows is installed, so
not much services are disabled in the tweaked installation ISO.
Pictus wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:53 am
The MX500 is much better and only +- $10 more expensive
hitherepeople wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:03 am
Could you elaborate please?
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cr ... 377-4.html
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102 posts since 23 Jul, 2021

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:05 am

Back in the day, there were issues with SSD's. Are they kinda past that now? (I remember having to do firmware updates to my two Samsungs)

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KVRian
595 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:15 am

Nowadays I do not remember any problem like in the past.

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102 posts since 23 Jul, 2021

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:47 pm

:) That's good to know.

KVRist
189 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:49 pm

I don't think they are the badly informed ones. :lol:

KVRian
1126 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:20 am

Pictus wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:53 am
legendCNCD wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:10 am

Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gamign 270
The X570 have a noise/fragile small chipset fan, get the B550 model.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDyqqs ... 0-e-gaming


BTW, you will need a GPU.
I dont think that X570-E has fan? Or I dont see it from the pictures at least.. would it be a problem?
Yes, I didnt even put GPU yet in because I dunno what I'll get. Either I'll get some cheapo "show desktop" or then transfer current 1070OC there.
Soft Knees - Demoscene - Live 10 - Diva - Omnisphere - Slate Digital VSX - TDR - Kush Audio - Fabfilter - PA - Valhalla - Fuse - Pulsar - NI - OekSound etc...

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