Massive 2.10 update to AKAI MPC Line hardware and software

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KVRist
172 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:52 am

antic604 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:00 pm
kcearl wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:59 pm
Well the Force beta (which Im not part of in case youre reading akai) has disk streaming…the last beta I saw, which was one of the first, this was mainly for recorded audio though you could direct large loops to be streamed from disk as well…that may have changed since then but even as it was it worked well.

Theyd also seemed to have streamlined the keygroups and they used up far less ram, not sure if it was utilizing some of the disk streaming too

Id imagine this will all be coming to the MPCs at sone point once they’ve ironed out the wrinkles
Thanks! :tu:

Nothing about the linear arranger for MPC? Or an actual FM synth? As much as I'm happy about new plugins, I don't really have much use for flutes & violins, whereas a good FM "fart" and "screech" is what my music thrives on ;) :D
When Dan from Akai frequented forums he did say the OS between the Force and MPC range would be the same in v3. I think thats when youll see the linear arranger. Tbh I like the MPC song mode too, both have their pris and cons.

If Air etc dont have an FM synth its unlikely the range will, these are all ports from Airs range. Id like xpand! ported, could be useful.

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KVRAF
9996 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:00 am

kcearl wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:52 am
If Air etc dont have an FM synth its unlikely the range will, these are all ports from Airs range. Id like xpand! ported, could be useful.
Over a year ago, after the NAMM2020 there were leaked screens from new firmware and amongst Solina, Mellotron and Hype there was FMX or something like that. So I hope they're still working on it. Not a deal breaker if it doesn't happen, but I'd love one to broaden the palette. Not to mention even a cut down version of loom, because additive synthesis can also sound great.

On the other hand, with the CPU they've in there I'm not holding my breath :)
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KVRist
172 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:12 am

antic604 wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:00 am
kcearl wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:52 am
If Air etc dont have an FM synth its unlikely the range will, these are all ports from Airs range. Id like xpand! ported, could be useful.
Over a year ago, after the NAMM2020 there were leaked screens from new firmware and amongst Solina, Mellotron and Hype there was FMX or something like that. So I hope they're still working on it. Not a deal breaker if it doesn't happen, but I'd love one to broaden the palette. Not to mention even a cut down version of loom, because additive synthesis can also sound great.

On the other hand, with the CPU they've in there I'm not holding my breath :)

Well FM would be welcome and surely not that CPU intensive if the M+ can run FM8...The Oddy isnt an Air instrument so theres hope :)

KVRian
716 posts since 17 Oct, 2018

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:03 pm

kcearl wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:31 am
Been using it for a while...my favourite part is the audio interface support...Ive been using a Yamaha THD 30...gives me speakers and input with my MPC. The new instruments are all very usable...had Hype in the Force, great to have it in the MPC.


And theres more to come ;)
Oh hey this this where you went to. LOL.
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KVRian
716 posts since 17 Oct, 2018

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:06 pm

This update is amazing. The sampler updates alone are worth it imo. Then you add all the other stuff. Akai takes their time but they at least do it right.
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KVRist
172 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:03 pm

apoclypse wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:03 pm
kcearl wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:31 am
Been using it for a while...my favourite part is the audio interface support...Ive been using a Yamaha THD 30...gives me speakers and input with my MPC. The new instruments are all very usable...had Hype in the Force, great to have it in the MPC.


And theres more to come ;)
Oh hey this this where you went to. LOL.
This and others ;)


Great update though!

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KVRAF
1935 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:38 pm

kcearl wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:52 am
If Air etc dont have an FM synth its unlikely the range will, these are all ports from Airs range.
antic604 wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:00 am
Over a year ago, after the NAMM2020 there were leaked screens from new firmware and amongst Solina, Mellotron and Hype there was FMX or something like that. So I hope they're still working on it. Not a deal breaker if it doesn't happen, but I'd love one to broaden the palette. Not to mention even a cut down version of loom, because additive synthesis can also sound great.
It was NAMM 2020. I can't remember the YouTuber, but he took a bunch of photos from the MPC Live that was demo'ing Drum Synth at the time. The pics he took are below. Solina and Mellotron are in there, as well as Drum Synth - and as clear as day are a synth called "FMX" as well as "FMiniSynth":



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antic604 wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:00 am
On the other hand, with the CPU they've in there I'm not holding my breath :)
Current CPU can easily handle FM. It's x1000 more powerful than the CPU that powered the Yamaha DX7 back in the day! :lol:
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KVRian
716 posts since 17 Oct, 2018

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:43 pm

The drum effects are pretty damn amazing. Only issue I've found so far with them is that some of them introduce this really annoying click on certain samples.
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KVRAF
1935 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:08 pm

These new Air and Akai insert effects are top notch - I can’t believe how cool they sound! Literally no standalone production device on the market even comes close to the MPC’s as of 2.10!
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7940 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:47 am

I am still finding cool new stuff in this update....Other than the 'headline' stuff...


The FX steal the show for me AKAI Granulator is pretty much on par with my MI Clouds.

GUI & UIs galore and FX Racks can now be saved- there are a ton of new pre-sets for these 'racks' already in.

The Drum and Keygroup Programs improvements are really welcome but the Key detection in Sample Edit and Program Edit are gamechangers for me.

The browser has much better searching and can be sorted by lots of new things....

CV Programs now have a drum mode!
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KVRAF
1935 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:05 am

SLiC wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:47 am
AKAI Granulator is pretty much on par with my MI Clouds.
Wow - that's impressive! Clouds sold for like $175 USD/€149 EUR by itself, back in the day, right?
SLiC wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:47 am
CV Programs now have a drum mode!
Totally forgot about that - about to hook up my Korg Volca Drum via CV tonight! :party:
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KVRAF
9123 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:19 pm

Agreed! Having a lot of fun mangling things with the Granulator effect in combination with the Vocal harmonizer and doubler thing. Especially the Harmonizer can be brutally "abused" when running signals that are NOT vocals into it. It can glitch out in all kinds of fantastic ways.. then add the Granulator after it and you suddenly can transform all kinds of audio into wonderful endless crazy ambient noise.
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KVRist
240 posts since 11 May, 2006 from Warszawa

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:52 pm

zyguli wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:49 am
I can see they have finally added Portamento with legato feature to the keygroup, but is it possible to play the keygroups legato without retriggering the envelopes and the samples? The overview videos don't show that.
Now I know. There is no legato mode whatsoever.

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