What is YOUR buffer size?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 402 posts since 8 Jan, 2015
Having troubles with audio crackling at 256 buffer size and even at 512! Doesn't seem to be any crackling at max buffer but then stabby leads etc don't feel good.
So! ...... what is YOUR buffer size? I'd like to compare
How can you help lower your buffer? Is it CPU based?
I have Windows 10
i7 4790k @ 4GHz
8GB RAM
Ableton 10
M-AUDIO AIR 192 interface
Getting crackles on Vital synth VST, just one instance. I am on power management high performance. I disabled wifi but didn't help.
Any suggestions?
CPU usage is 15%, memory is 68% on task manager.
So! ...... what is YOUR buffer size? I'd like to compare
How can you help lower your buffer? Is it CPU based?
I have Windows 10
i7 4790k @ 4GHz
8GB RAM
Ableton 10
M-AUDIO AIR 192 interface
Getting crackles on Vital synth VST, just one instance. I am on power management high performance. I disabled wifi but didn't help.
Any suggestions?
CPU usage is 15%, memory is 68% on task manager.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
128 here, mostly because I read that there can be timing issues with higher buffer sizes, not because I'd need it for proper playing.
I don't get why you experience crackles, unless you play very expensive plugins, or have a high track count.
I don't get why you experience crackles, unless you play very expensive plugins, or have a high track count.
- KVRAF
- 1943 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
Check with latencymon if some drivers (graphics, etc.) are causing DPC latency spikes, that's my number one guess: https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 402 posts since 8 Jan, 2015
Already using that doesn't seem to be helpful. It throws up different .sys - ACPI, wdf01000, ndis, msmpeng etc
sometimes it says the computer can handle real time audio sometimes not.
What buffer size you use?
sometimes it says the computer can handle real time audio sometimes not.
What buffer size you use?
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
- KVRAF
- 1943 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
Yep chk071 is right. Let latencymon run for a good while, maybe at the same time you try to use your DAW and get those crackles, and post what's up.
If it "sometimes" says the computer can't handle realtime audio, that already means there's something not that optimal going on.
I've used a buffer size as low as 32 on an i7-3770K system with no problems at all. It's not just about the CPU; instead, for something like that you need a computer that doesn't contain parts/drivers that bottleneck realtime performance, including an audio interface with very solid and efficient drivers (for that, I've used RME HDSPe AIOs for years as they have always worked so well).
In regular operation, I tend to stay at 128 most often, even on systems with a faster CPU.
If it "sometimes" says the computer can't handle realtime audio, that already means there's something not that optimal going on.
I've used a buffer size as low as 32 on an i7-3770K system with no problems at all. It's not just about the CPU; instead, for something like that you need a computer that doesn't contain parts/drivers that bottleneck realtime performance, including an audio interface with very solid and efficient drivers (for that, I've used RME HDSPe AIOs for years as they have always worked so well).
In regular operation, I tend to stay at 128 most often, even on systems with a faster CPU.
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- KVRian
- 1000 posts since 25 Feb, 2008 from Sydney, Australia
128 is the sweet spot.
Low enough latency for tracking everyone except drummers and vocalists, yet high enough to run a trouble free session in most cases.
Low enough latency for tracking everyone except drummers and vocalists, yet high enough to run a trouble free session in most cases.
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- 9087 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.
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- 102 posts since 23 Jul, 2021
What a studio question. It's whatever you buffer will allow dumb dumb.
I'm a 32, you ain't that good, why? You cheap?
I'm a 32, you ain't that good, why? You cheap?
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- KVRist
- 356 posts since 18 Jun, 2010
If I'm playing live guitar through it in real time, 32.
Doing anything else, I switch to 1024 (Logic) or 2048 (Ableton Live). Latency doesn't bug me unless I'm actually strumming strings.
Doing anything else, I switch to 1024 (Logic) or 2048 (Ableton Live). Latency doesn't bug me unless I'm actually strumming strings.
- KVRAF
- 15273 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
It's just a monitor that tells you what could be problematic software components, not a tool that fixes the cause.
Post its exact findings here, and I'm sure someone will chime in to help you out fixing it.
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- KVRAF
- 1942 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from Timisoara, Romania
- KVRAF
- 1802 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Nothing crackles between lowest and 512 setting on m-audio audiophile2496 - until I get over 95% usage or some peaks that hit that area. Somethings wrong there..
I use 128 to 512 - depending, on master 512 to give out some leeway
I use 128 to 512 - depending, on master 512 to give out some leeway
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
384 samples.
Keep in mind that I work at 88200 Hz sampling rate, which halves the buffer delay compared to standard setting
Keep in mind that I work at 88200 Hz sampling rate, which halves the buffer delay compared to standard setting
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- KVRAF
- 2862 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
128...
But it really depends on the size of the buffet
But it really depends on the size of the buffet
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