How to merge midi with Linnstrument, Touchosc and Ableton

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KVRist
40 posts since 26 Mar, 2020

Post Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:05 pm

Hi!

I rebuilt my setup recently and want to run a bunch of stuff at once:

My Beastep Pro controls a drumcomputer and some hardware monosynths, all on separate MIDI channels. All audio and midi is recorded in Ableton on separate tracks.

This is the easy part: set a synth to receive on a certain MIDI-channel and voilà, it works.

Now I want to control an MPE softsynth with my Linnstrument and ALSO control this same synth with Touchosc on my iPad... Now I cannot just set these to the same MIDI channel since MPE uses multiple channels...

I think I should merge the MIDI from the Linnstrument and from my iPad app before it goes into Ableton, so I then can select this new MIDI source on my softsynth track.

Who has solved this and what is the solution?

I 'm open to both hard- and software solutions. Software should run on a Mac.

All the best,

Jef

KVRist
250 posts since 12 Sep, 2007

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:25 am

What about 2 instances of the same plugin?

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KVRAF
6055 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:37 am

TouchOSC sends OSC instead of Midi. That should not interfere. As far as I know Live supports OSC, at least Max4Live does. It should be straight to combine incoming Midi from the LinnStrument with the OSC messages in a Max4Live device and send them combined as Midi messages to your synth…

KVRist

Topic Starter

40 posts since 26 Mar, 2020

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:01 am

So the idea is that I play notes on the Linnstrument and use Touchosc to control parameters on the synth. The idea is to use them both, at the same time, to control one synth.

Touchosc uses Touchosc-bridge to convert Osc to MIDI.

Unfortunately I do not know how to make MAX patches so I am looking for a simpler solution.

KVRist
492 posts since 2 May, 2002 from Kalispell, MT

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 am

Since live now has built in MPE, can’t you just set the track with the Virtual instrument to receive all?

KVRist

Topic Starter

40 posts since 26 Mar, 2020

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:00 am

GruvSyco wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 am
Since live now has built in MPE, can’t you just set the track with the Virtual instrument to receive all?
Since I have other MIDI input sources connected, this would not work.

I found a solution though:

1 midi track is set to receive from Linnstrument, a second track to receive from TOUCHOSC. Both these tracks then send their MIDI to a 3rd track, which is set to receive from "no input". On this 3rd MIDI-track I can place an MPE synth that now receives from 2 different sources, without receiving from other sequencers etc.

It is a bit clumsy to have 3 tracks for one instrument, so I am still on the lookout for a way to merge the MIDI data BEFORE it comes into Ableton.

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KVRAF
6055 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:16 pm

My secret consultant Google told me something about MidiPipe, which can merge Midi streams…

KVRist

Topic Starter

40 posts since 26 Mar, 2020

Post Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:56 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:16 pm
My secret consultant Google told me something about MidiPipe, which can merge Midi streams…
Soooooo, MidiPipe works: it merges multiple MIDI sources nicely to a single bus.

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