Roland Cloud

[BBFG#]

It's not the account that is irksome (as most plugins require you to make an account), it's the "phone-home" thing that bugs me. If you buy a life-time licenses, you should be able to authorize it once per install and then never again.

I mean, I understand it for the subscription, but it is unfair for a Lifetime license owner.

Yes, this. The only reason I brought up the "having an account" was because of a previous comment that I saw as buying it under a "non-subscription membership".
Or more directly for "Brian" to answer:
I'm more apt to purchase a "lifetime key" if it authorizes once after install and that's it. And to do it once as a remote authorization is a plus. (Being that one computer is not even near an internet connection.)
Is that possible?

[Examigan]

For a company that uses program changes on their hardware synths and workstations, is it really this hard for your developers to implement this in the software, so we don't have to use the mouse to change patches?

I would like that feature added also.

Another request:
When you have it zoomed in to say 160% on the D-50 or others, then you go into an edit mode, the zoom level has to change for it to fit on the screen. That's Ok, but when you leave the editing pages, you have to go back to the Option button and select the zoom level you want every time as it doesn't remember it for you when it switches back to that view.

[Arashi]

I'm more apt to purchase a "lifetime key" if it authorizes once after install and that's it. And to do it once as a remote authorization is a plus. (Being that one computer is not even near an internet connection.)
Is that possible?

Nope. Even a "lifetime" key requires phone-home authorization every 30 days (I think the 30-day thing has already been in place for awhile). It's a pretty crummy system, especially given the rather high price of lifetime keys.

[Muziksculp]

Hi,

I installed the Roland Sound Canvas VA , RCM shows it is installed, but it doesn't show up in my DAW. (Studio One Pro 5 / Windows 10). Anyone know what could be the issue here ?

I tried to Uninstall, and Reinstall it again, but that didn't help.

Thanks,
Muziksculp

[Muziksculp]

Oh.. I also checked the VST 3 folder, and the Sound Canvas is not showing in it. All other Roland Cloud Instruments I installed are in the VST3 folder.

[Aloysius]

Sound Canvas is VST2 only.

[Muziksculp]

Sound Canvas is VST2 only.

Yes, That's correct. I just checked on this. But it's not being installed by the RCM as a VST2. Is there a different way to install it ?

Any idea where the RCM would have installed the VST2 version, I tried finding it, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere on my C:drive.

Thanks

[Aloysius]

If it's of any use, my Windows 10 version was installed to ...

C:\Program Files\VSTPlugIns\Roland\Sound Canvas VA\SOUND Canvas VA.dll

[Muziksculp]

If it's of any use, my Windows 10 version was installed to ...

C:\Program Files\VSTPlugIns\Roland\Sound Canvas VA\SOUND Canvas VA.dll

Yes, that's it. Thanks.

Actually, I just got a reply from Roland support. Telling me it should be in this folder. So, I checked, and yes it was in the (C:\Program Files\VstPlugins) inside the Roland folder. All I had to do extra was to add this location to be scanned by Studio One Pro 5, which wasn't set previously.

Enjoying the Sound Canvas now, I used to have the HW SC-88 long time ago, when they were released, love these sound modules, they can do so much, it brings a lot of memories back, I'm feeling quite nostalgic

[fmr]

Sound Canvas is VST2 only.

Yes, That's correct. I just checked on this. But it's not being installed by the RCM as a VST2. Is there a different way to install it ?

Any idea where the RCM would have installed the VST2 version, I tried finding it, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere on my C:drive.

Thanks

It forcelly installs under Program Files/VstPlugIns (another stupid thing about the RCM - itr even doesn't allow the user to define where should the VST files be installed). Look for it there, and copy the folder to whatever place you are using for your VST plug-ins.

[Brian.McClelland]

I just want the option of buying a "lifetime key" without having to have an account or having to ever sign on to Roland again. Lifetime as long as subscribed is not lifetime at all to me.
Have enough lifetime things from them that'll probably not live to see the next computer I eventually have to upgrade to. All because they require signing in to a site they killed by closing it down.
And so far, it seems that "Brian" goes silent every time someone asks to clarify directly without spin.

Hi, BBF#G! I'd like to clarify something here. I work Monday-Friday 9AM-5PM PST. I usually post on Fridays, then try to get to all of our responses from over the weekend as I compile my report on Mondays. As this weekend was 808Day, there was a large amount of traffic on the many channels I monitor, it has taken me a sec to get back. I'm always happy to help, so feel free to send me a direct message.

To answer your question, the Lifetime Key is a single purchase license option, but it does require authentication, and will continue to require authentication. I understand that this does not work for some setups, and that's ok. This may not be the right product for you.

Yeah, and IIRC, there was a "Brian comment" that said they had or were putting it in place that would be a thirty day requirement instead. But that's exactly the type of double-speak I've learned to never trust from Roland again.
And the only reason I continue to check this thread is in hoping they drop that lie and make a lifetime key a real lifetime key. So far, they don't have a good track record of anything ever being lifetime. And in fact, they seem to work at actually killing them at some point and blaming something else for them moving on to a new scheme.

The reality here is that there were enough user requests to change the mechanism from a seven day authentication period to a thirty day period, but, as we have several exciting new changes coming, we are grouping the changes to our website copy together so everything is updated at once. There is no doublespeak here, we're just waiting to update the website. Thanks!

[Aloysius]

iLok 2 would be great.

[BBFG#]

and will continue to require authentication.

Then it's not a lifetime key, it's as lifetime authentication program.
That is a description of double speak.

But I am surprised you actually attempted to answer this time.

And no, iLok is not a great idea.

[trackbout]

It's not double speak to call it a lifetime key. A key is used to unlock something, and I don't own too many keys, physical or soft, that get used once and never need to be used again. It's a lifetime key because it continues to function, as a key, for life.

[Echoes in the Attic]

It's not double speak to call it a lifetime key. A key is used to unlock something, and I don't own too many keys, physical or soft, that get used once and never need to be used again. It's a lifetime key because it continues to function, as a key, for life.

True enough. I guess many of us don't really want a key to unlock a door that lets us into a room where we get to use a product we paid for. We want to take the product home. Because it's frustrating when you show up to put your key in the door and there is a sign that says "Not open today", or the key just doesn't work for some reason, or maybe the house burns down one day, along with your product that you were never allowed o take home, but only owned the key for where it's kept.