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THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:08 pm
SLiC wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:49 am I am sure INTRANCER can fix the colours for you.

You seem to have gone though the same logic as I did when I subscribed...its not a big leap if your used to buying Bitwig Annual Plans! If nothing else it can be a short term 'fix' until there is some no brainer 'Reason 13 suite' or something- its not like you are committed for life, you can cancel any time! If you decide to stay with it you can always sell your licence (or just keep it for 'insurance!) - I seem to remember they did offer 1 year for 40% off at some point (130)- a bit like buying Bitwig Annual Plans in the sale maybe!


As for Mimics colour combination, it's considered bad in the fashion industry to mix orange and green, so if you are wondering what the.... well you're not alone.

https://fashion-spreads.com/8-colors-th ... bined.html

Red ( orange ) and green are complentary colours = contrast
They mix verry well , depending on the task .
If there is one person who should really spend some time learning coour theory , it's you :lol:
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Not for me.
The midi editor is horrendous compared to Reaper.

Loving the sounds though when they actually work.

But having a big block of colour sitting above the edited section is not practical.

Sound randomly does not work.

I'd need a decade to come to grips with Reason,just does not seem intuitive at all.

Also the zoom function is horrible.

Reaper is so much more user friendly.

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:46 pm
THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:08 pm

As for Mimics colour combination, it's considered bad in the fashion industry to mix orange and green, so if you are wondering what the.... well you're not alone.

https://fashion-spreads.com/8-colors-th ... bined.html

Red ( orange ) and green are complentary colours = contrast
They mix verry well , depending on the task .
If there is one person who should really spend some time learning coour theory , it's you :lol:
Uh well red isn’t orange, the complentary color of orange is blue. And here’s Alexander McQueen mixing lots of orange and green because there are no rules in fashion.
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Don’t worry I won’t go more into this color theory fashion off topic! Mimic looks nice imo.
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I hate how when in any section like the midi editor,there are entrails of other modules still on the screen.

I want to click the midi file and that file fills the whole screen and NOTHING else is there.

Same if I click a mixing track.I just want the console to fill the whole screen.

Instead of bits and pieces of shit everywhere.

ALL DAWS seem to have bits of clutter still in the background when you are in a specific section,that does my head in.

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Smasha wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:02 am I hate how when in any section like the midi editor,there are entrails of other modules still on the screen.

I want to click the midi file and that file fills the whole screen and NOTHING else is there.

Same if I click a mixing track.I just want the console to fill the whole screen.

Instead of bits and pieces of shit everywhere.

ALL DAWS seem to have bits of clutter still in the background when you are in a specific section,that does my head in.
Having more than one monitor helps with that, for example you can float the Reason mixer window onto its own screen if you want.

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Dalle wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:00 am
And here’s Alexander McQueen mixing lots of orange and green because there are no rules in fashion.
“Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.”

― Oscar Wilde

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Smasha wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:02 am ALL DAWS seem to have bits of clutter still in the background when you are in a specific section,that does my head in.
Tried FL Studio? Least cluttered sequencer and piano roll i can think of.

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I wonder if Reason 12 will be delayed (beyond Sept 1st)

The high-res transition is still patchy, e.g. the transport bar and tool bar don't scale properly, many of the 3rd party REs don't look good either. The GPU acceleration is there, but it doesn't really feel smooth, i.e. resizing panels still stutters, scrolling Rack isn't fluid, etc. The Mimic sampler seems to be rushed (no pitch & tempo detection, no slicing by beat grid, no rex support, etc.). We haven't yet seen the new Combinator, which - as I understand it - is a much more complex and difficult device to pull off right. Not to mention gradual roll out of new stuff via Reason+ lets them dilute the release timing a bit to excuse the (potential) delay...

I think considering the above it would be smarter for RS going forward to just call the current period a public beta phase and not commit to any firm release date, like Ableton or Bitwig do.
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Well - I tried the 333 trial and it is now uninstalled and cancelled. I have owned reason since v1 and sold my suite license keeping my REs and using them i lite.

I guess the sampler is ok - actually quite nice they make really nice devices at the end of the day but reason is still the ux nightmare. It’s just so clunky and has so many left offer bits. The f8 menu is still there and as messy and nonsensical as ever. There are low res assets in the main browser still. The sequencer is clunky and frustrating as usual. I thought I might buy v12 when it comes out but I just don’t need it. Last night I went back into logics once I uninstalled it and it’s night and day in difference between the two.

I think it’s safe to say that reason studios are now device manufacturers and that they really don’t care about the platform as a whole. They just can’t use it or even use the other daws out here otherwise they would surely be seeing what other platforms are doing.
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Smasha wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:02 am I hate how when in any section like the midi editor,there are entrails of other modules still on the screen.
Seems you have the rack still anchored then... I'd say that qualifies as pilot error. ;-)

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The more I test it out, Mimic is really mainly useful for Reason DAW use unless you have something as flimsy as live standard and their simpler.
It can make a quick instrument from one shots but so can many other samplers that are native to the DAW.

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MuzikFreq wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:46 am The more I test it out, Mimic is really mainly useful for Reason DAW use unless you have something as flimsy as live standard and their simpler.
It can make a quick instrument from one shots but so can many other samplers that are native to the DAW.
That's an interesting take, i.e. that Mimic is not good enough as a standalone device in Rack while used in other DAWs, but good for Reason DAW itself.

So, in a way, they are developing the DAW! ;) :D
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apoclypse wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:27 pm I watch a video about the new sampler. Seems really nice and well featured. ..

One thing though, doesn't detect sample pitch, which they should add as that's seems to be where most samplers nowadays are going. Bitwig does it, Logic does it, hell even the MPC now does it. Another thing is that it doesn't do slicing by beat division or equal parts. I think it only does transient.
Yeah, not having key detect is a peculiar omission for Mimic, as Grain does it (as does NNXT, etc). It's not like they don't have the code written already. :dog: Hoping that's added in a future update.
antic604 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:13 am I wonder if Reason 12 will be delayed (beyond Sept 1st)
With less than 3 weeks to go until September 1, I'd be surprised to see it, but it's not out of the question. Did they publically announce that September 1 was supposed to be the Reason 12 (perpetual) release date? Or was it just September? Can't remember.
antic604 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:13 am The high-res transition is still patchy, e.g. the transport bar and tool bar don't scale properly, many of the 3rd party REs don't look good either. The GPU acceleration is there, but it doesn't really feel smooth, i.e. resizing panels still stutters, scrolling Rack isn't fluid, etc. The Mimic sampler seems to be rushed (no pitch & tempo detection, no slicing by beat grid, no rex support, etc.).
Assuming Mimic is built like all of Reason devices since the Rack Extension format was introduced (which is close to 10 years now!), then the RE SDK still doesn't support REX import/export as of yet. So they'll need to do an RE SDK update along with it. Not holding my breath. That said, as of the current R+ build 12.1 d2 in the stable channel, I don't have any stuttering (?) when resizing panels. Hi-res panels refresh almost instantly for me. Scrolling through the rack seems to be the same as always though, which is pretty much how it's been since version 1.0.
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EnochLight wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:58 pm...
The original announcement says September 1st.

I'm using the stable Reason+ channel, so maybe that's different? Well, let's hope they'll polish everything until the release, whenever that is.
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antic604 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:11 pm The original announcement says September 1st.

I'm using the stable Reason+ channel, so maybe that's different? Well, let's hope they'll polish everything until the release, whenever that is.
Does it say 12.1 d2 under your build number?
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