New Cherry Audio synth plugin Sept. 16th

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KVRAF
6969 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:45 pm

I dunno... do people even buy things that Jordan Rudess hasn't endorsed?
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil

KVRian
1022 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:39 pm

DrGonzo wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:41 am
I'm really impressed with the speed they are developing their software. How is it possible?
See Vortifex’s comment above. I have a similar impression. I think they are arranging various objects developed for VM into an architecture that fits classic synth XYZ, adding whatever extras are needed, and slapping a GUI over it all.
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KVRAF
9963 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:55 pm

DrGonzo wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:41 am
I'm really impressed with the speed they are developing their software. How is it possible?
Recycling code

KVRian
559 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:00 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:09 pm
Super Piano Hater 64 wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:23 pm
Synth Master Jedi wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:31 am
I don't get caught up in the whole aliasing thing, though some people seem to obsess over it.
From what I've seen, the sound designers are more bothered by it than the musicians.
I am bothered as a musician mainly. A glide in the high register just sounds wrong if part of the harmonic content of the sound is moving in the opposite direction… If you play it just with a keyboard without any bends, the aliasing is just a bit of harshness which might be acceptable in a mix context…
I do like the character of the CA synths a lot and prefer them over other emulations mostly. I just must not play them in the higher registers…
any given preset of any synth has its sweet spot register. i havent encountered one single preset of any synth that sounded equally awesome in the full 88 register, no matter plugin or hardware. its mostly at max 2 octaves or even 1 and a half. in some cases i think its even 3 notes or so the rest is often from awkward up to beshitted. thats why i always write a recommended register into a preset file.
maybe my brain is dysfunctional^^

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KVRAF
1915 posts since 6 Jul, 2013

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:28 am

anttimaatteri wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:00 am
any given preset of any synth has its sweet spot register. i havent encountered one single preset of any synth that sounded equally awesome in the full 88 register, no matter plugin or hardware. its mostly at max 2 octaves or even 1 and a half.
A good - musical - preset designer will (or should!) factor that in - if I have an awesome sound in the middle, I will see what happens going up and down, and then I will tailer scaling and other controls to make sure the sound still does interesting things in an extended range - or if it doesn't, have some split or layer thing where those less useful ranges are filled with something else.

it's not always possible to do this without spoiling the original intended patch, but the options should at least be explored.

If you're making a bass sound and it sounds crap up high, a preset designer should at least explore some possibilities of doing something better outside the intended range, but a lot of people are lazy and say "well the sound works fine in this octave, and that's good enough for me" and won't explore proper performance controls, key scaling, velocity, aftertouch and other possibilities that a more competent sound designer will...

KVRian
514 posts since 18 Nov, 2010

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:16 am

Why doesn't my guitar have 88 strings????? :D (just an anology)

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KVRAF
6179 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:54 am

wwjd wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:16 am
Why doesn't my guitar have 88 strings????? :D (just an anology)
Then it would be called monster harp and not guitar.
My LinnStrument has 160 keys, more than Midi can deal with…

KVRian
559 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:41 am

peasants: coonan, tell us whats best in life!
coonan: to make music, buy plugins and hear the lamentation of the analogue owners

KVRer
3 posts since 7 Jan, 2004

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:45 am

A JP-4 or ProMARS for $29 would be nice......Andromeda seems too ambitious for CA for $39 but wow, what a release that would be! Of course, ProMARS already exists (Roland Cloud) - not sure the world needs another one of those.....

KVRian
771 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:53 pm

beely wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:28 am
anttimaatteri wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:00 am
any given preset of any synth has its sweet spot register. i havent encountered one single preset of any synth that sounded equally awesome in the full 88 register, no matter plugin or hardware. its mostly at max 2 octaves or even 1 and a half.
A good - musical - preset designer will (or should!) factor that in - if I have an awesome sound in the middle, I will see what happens going up and down, and then I will tailer scaling and other controls to make sure the sound still does interesting things in an extended range - or if it doesn't, have some split or layer thing where those less useful ranges are filled with something else.

it's not always possible to do this without spoiling the original intended patch, but the options should at least be explored.

If you're making a bass sound and it sounds crap up high, a preset designer should at least explore some possibilities of doing something better outside the intended range, but a lot of people are lazy and say "well the sound works fine in this octave, and that's good enough for me" and won't explore proper performance controls, key scaling, velocity, aftertouch and other possibilities that a more competent sound designer will...
A lot of emulation type synths don't really have the flexibility to do a whole lot in this area.

KVRer
28 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:43 am

No word on the website yet…I wonder if it’s been delayed?

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addled muppet weed
83532 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:46 am

Caesarg86 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:43 am
No word on the website yet…I wonder if it’s been delayed?
they usually drop early evening time in the uk, it's early for them i think.

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KVRian
990 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:05 am


KVRAF
1868 posts since 11 Mar, 2003

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:12 am

I've been longing for a Jupiter-4 for some time now, not sure how I feel about CA doing it. I'll demo anyway.

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KVRian
990 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:21 am

Does the Jupiter-4 have a ladder filter? Resonance on this thing is very sensitive, and has a larger volume drop than I would expect.

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