Synths with Ring Mod, OSC FM and Filter FM?

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KVRAF
2052 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:21 am

Autobot wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:40 pm
u-he Zebra can do this as well
OSC 1-4 FM
FMO 1-4 FM, RM
RM Module for any combination of signal
XFM Dual Filter with FM
I don't think this right; the only oscillators which respond at audio rate are the FMOs. You can't route an oscillator to the pitch of another regular oscillator. If you could, the oscillators would be options in the modulation menus.

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Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:32 am

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Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:39 am

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KVRist
303 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:16 am

yul wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:30 pm
Ring mod is the harder one to find,
Ring Mod (to me) was always a standard feature, has that changed over the years?

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Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:27 am

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KVRian
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Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:27 am

CinningBao wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:21 am
Autobot wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:40 pm
u-he Zebra can do this as well
OSC 1-4 FM
FMO 1-4 FM, RM
RM Module for any combination of signal
XFM Dual Filter with FM
I don't think this right; the only oscillators which respond at audio rate are the FMOs. You can't route an oscillator to the pitch of another regular oscillator. If you could, the oscillators would be options in the modulation menus.
That's partly true. The OSC modules do not have a mod input for straight FM but you have a couple of OSC FXs with different FM/PM capabilities and the intensity of it can be modulated.
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KVRian
953 posts since 27 Mar, 2013

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:29 am

Rastkovic wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:16 am
yul wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:30 pm
Ring mod is the harder one to find,
Ring Mod (to me) was always a standard feature, has that changed over the years?

It's still quite common I would say. Maybe the flood of wavetable synths and similar made some think a ring mod is not necessary (?). But it's still in a lot of software and hardware synth. New-ish "classic' synths like Invader2 have it.
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KVRAF
2052 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:58 am

Autobot wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:27 am
CinningBao wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:21 am
Autobot wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:40 pm
u-he Zebra can do this as well
OSC 1-4 FM
FMO 1-4 FM, RM
RM Module for any combination of signal
XFM Dual Filter with FM
I don't think this right; the only oscillators which respond at audio rate are the FMOs. You can't route an oscillator to the pitch of another regular oscillator. If you could, the oscillators would be options in the modulation menus.
That's partly true. The OSC modules do not have a mod input for straight FM but you have a couple of OSC FXs with different FM/PM capabilities and the intensity of it can be modulated.
But, the OP asked for oscillator FM, and those OSC FX aren't real FM.

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Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:13 am

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KVRian
953 posts since 27 Mar, 2013

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:36 am

CinningBao wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:58 am
Autobot wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:27 am
CinningBao wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:21 am
Autobot wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:40 pm
u-he Zebra can do this as well
OSC 1-4 FM
FMO 1-4 FM, RM
RM Module for any combination of signal
XFM Dual Filter with FM
I don't think this right; the only oscillators which respond at audio rate are the FMOs. You can't route an oscillator to the pitch of another regular oscillator. If you could, the oscillators would be options in the modulation menus.
That's partly true. The OSC modules do not have a mod input for straight FM but you have a couple of OSC FXs with different FM/PM capabilities and the intensity of it can be modulated.
But, the OP asked for oscillator FM, and those OSC FX aren't real FM.
Well it's not 'real' fm but it sounds like it :D so whether you are looking for tech or sound it's up to you but I'm fine when the sound is right. the OSC-FXs DX, Scrambler, Trajector, PhaseDist are capable of that fairly easy. For 'real' FM I prefer 'real' FM synthesizer.
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KVRian
1201 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:53 am

Autobot wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:29 am
Rastkovic wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:16 am
yul wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:30 pm
Ring mod is the harder one to find,
Ring Mod (to me) was always a standard feature, has that changed over the years?

It's still quite common I would say. Maybe the flood of wavetable synths and similar made some think a ring mod is not necessary (?). But it's still in a lot of software and hardware synth. New-ish "classic' synths like Invader2 have it.
Thanks guys my thought was that rm was a little harder to find on poly synths, especially commercial ones. I was looking at hardware too and the Prologue is one of the few for example. Software is also not as common so thanks for all the suggestions.

KVRist
57 posts since 22 Jan, 2010 from Oregon, U.S.

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:43 pm

Tone2 Icarus has several osc FM morph modes, several osc AM/ringmod modes, and several ringmod/FM filter types.

KVRist
57 posts since 22 Jan, 2010 from Oregon, U.S.

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:34 pm

Biome_Digital wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:41 pm
Pigments can do most of that.
The neat thing about Pigments is that it has some type of FM in each of the four osc types; and in some cases, the FM can be used alongside other forms of modulation. I think ring mod is present in the sampler module.

Surge also has FM and ringmod capabilities.

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Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:09 pm

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KVRAF
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Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:13 pm

phreaque wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:27 am
Spire
It has ring mod?

Dang, I really need to learn more about this synth. :D
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