Plogue OPS7 (bit-accurate DX7 emulation!)

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KVRAF
1863 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:56 am

Awaiting demo version…

KVRAF
1799 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:10 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:52 am
BenfordLaw wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:25 am
gaggle of hermits wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:06 am
i'm not sure something based on a dx7 is what you're after.

"here's bit-exact dx7 clone"

"does it make sounds that don't sound like they come from a dx7?"

"er..." <insert gif of nation fillion in castle attempting to explain something here>
I'm asking if there is a video that shows decent DX7 patches, apart from the factory sounds. Like LOTS of decent presets that aren't all variations on the very (in my opinion) limited number of different presets that the DX7 has.
If you don't know how to program fm synths , this synth is not for you , simple as that .
Fm is capable of amazing basses and pads etc ,ops7 even expands on this by providing feedback per operator which is beyond what the tg77 can offer ( only 3 feedback loops )
Maybe just start learning the principles of operator ratios , 2-1 for square etc.. , subhertz operators inbetween for chorus like effects etc...instead of wading through 40 year old pathces .
Do you have a link to a website or can refer to a source that you personally think is good for mastering FM synths? I use Plogue PortaFM primarily which is 2 OP and relatively easy to program but I would like to increase my knowledge and take full advantage of OPS7.

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KVRer
17 posts since 21 Jun, 2013 from Germany

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:20 am

phreaque wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:02 am
Why would one be limited to few pre-configured algos while it is possible to reroute operators freely and have feedback loops whenever wanted?

Is it that important to stick to same 40 years old hardware design just because?!
What I like with these fixed configurations is that you can simply scroll through them (I love this simple knob on the actual GUI !!!) and listen to them while you play. Often this will lead to useful variations of the same sound, especially if you work with layered and detuned sounds. For example load "Cyber bass" (one of the first presets of OPS7) and switch to algo 16 on the first layer...

KVRian
807 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:32 am

cantaloupe wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:37 am
The ultrasonic frequencies seems much cleaner when using the "Accurate" channel mix setting in OPS7 as opposed to "Fast". The airwindows plugin solves all this however.
Right this is another issue. Looking into it now. the combination of "Fast" and 96kHz or 192kHz causes some minor upsampling residue by default which can easily be confused as TDM carrier noise. Ok then! Just bumped the upsampler quality setting until that disappeared with no noticeable cpu hit.

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Important to know for the rest of you: None of that matters if you run the plugin at 44/48
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KVRian
807 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:37 am

Hanz Meyzer wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:56 am
Awaiting demo version…
Could be next week, worse case the week after. We are busy working out all reported bugs and issues first.
Thanks for your patience.
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KVRAF
3208 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:38 am

Hi guys, late to the party here, congrats Plogue, fantastic synth :)

Is there a definitive folder go SYSEX files for download please?

EDIT: Found a bunch: http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/yamaha_dx7/dx7_patches.html
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KVRist
187 posts since 31 May, 2017

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:42 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:32 am
Ok then! Just bumped the upsampler quality setting until that disappeared with no noticeable cpu hit.
Nice!
Thanks David.

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KVRAF
10542 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:55 am

perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:10 am
Do you have a link to a website or can refer to a source that you personally think is good for mastering FM synths? I use Plogue PortaFM primarily which is 2 OP and relatively easy to program but I would like to increase my knowledge and take full advantage of OPS7.
Don't trust any website. Trust this: https://www.amazon.com/Fm-Theory-Applic ... 4636174828

You have here a PDF version: http://www.burnkit2600.com/manuals/fm_t ... ations.pdf
Fernando (FMR)

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KVRist
86 posts since 11 Mar, 2021 from Romania

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:53 am

perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:10 am
Do you have a link to a website or can refer to a source that you personally think is good for mastering FM synths? I use Plogue PortaFM primarily which is 2 OP and relatively easy to program but I would like to increase my knowledge and take full advantage of OPS7.
The DX7 Bible
https://archive.org/details/thecompletedx7

KVRian
703 posts since 13 Feb, 2013

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:08 am

I have a massive amount of syx presets. Is there a way to use the computer keyboard or midi to switch presets? It's straining to click the long list with the mouse. 8)

KVRian
807 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:33 pm

midi_transmission wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:08 am
I have a massive amount of syx presets. Is there a way to use the computer keyboard or midi to switch presets? It's straining to click the long list with the mouse. 8)
Works here with my computer keyboard.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
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KVRian
703 posts since 13 Feb, 2013

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:50 pm

I tried it again. I can confirm it's working for the OPS7 preset list.

But not in the SYX list were you can load custom patches.

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KVRAF
3510 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:05 pm

On my system (Win10) the far left .SYX browser can be navigated using arrow keys; the secondary preset browser cannot.
the old free version may not work boots successfully on new generations of computers, instruments, and hardware

KVRAF
7611 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:56 pm

pough wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:05 pm
On my system (Win10) the far left .SYX browser can be navigated using arrow keys; the secondary preset browser cannot.
Not only that! If I open the VST version, using the down/up arrow keys in Cubase is navigating the tracks!
I tried FM8, Predator 2, CZ V, ...etc and all of them working as intended (only FM8 navigating but not loading the presets).

So, a serious testing and fixing should be there!

KVRAF
7611 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:57 pm

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