Do you find yourself re arranging your track as you mix?
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- KVRian
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- 1142 posts since 31 Dec, 2020
You thought you'd finished arranging the song!
Perhaps (like me) you find that once you start EQing you realise there's just too many things happening at once at 3 minutes and 5 seconds, for example?
Perhaps (like me) you find that once you start EQing you realise there's just too many things happening at once at 3 minutes and 5 seconds, for example?
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- 9087 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.
Little tweaks n edits. Maybe remove a chunk that drags
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- KVRAF
- 1791 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Its good to take pauses between these processes anyway, and a pause listening to that track to forget it. When you get back to it with clear mind and ears, you'll notice things needed to be done much easier and have a better "visio" of it because you took time to step back and let it rest. At least this is how things go usually for me.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12620 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
All the time. I don't make any artificial distinction between writing and mixing - all gets done bit by bit as I go along. Trick is, as previous, to then leave things a week or so when it's done then go back and listen again with fresh ears to tweak stuff.
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- KVRist
- 279 posts since 31 Aug, 2020
Until the end of the project I am tinkering details here and there, a lot of it is automation, volume and fx. I'm more on the edm side so lot's of the mixing is actually arrangment and vice versa.
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- KVRAF
- 35162 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Yeah. I usually make mixes as I'm writing so I don't "over-develop" and lose the original idea. Sometimes the early mixes turn out to the best ones.
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- 9087 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.
I get to a point and make group stems. Partly to spare cpu, partly because it's gotten to adding whatever extra bits & not looking back
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 27 Sep, 2021
Absolutely. My method is total and utter madness. But when it all comes together, the results are very satisfying, which isn't often (see my newly created thread about my mixing/gain-staging woes lol).
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15939 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
I don't make distinctions between any of these processes. As I said recently in another thread, mixing starts the moment I add a second channel to a project but I'll add arranging to that as well. So both mixing and arranging start at that point but neither of them finish until the whole thing is ready to have a line ruled under it. Even then, we'll often re-organise them to play live - shorter intros, different endings. We also put a lot of effort into shortening them so we can play more songs in our allotted time. We aim for 4 minutes per song, even though they average around 6 minutes on an album.
Because lyrics are very often the last thing to get done, I almost always have to re-jig the arrangement to fit the vocals in, so while I am working on it, it will normally be with a generic arrangement. Even when you start mastering, we sometimes have to go back and turn something down a bit or up a bit so it's really not finished until we send it off to the label for manufacture/distribution.
Because lyrics are very often the last thing to get done, I almost always have to re-jig the arrangement to fit the vocals in, so while I am working on it, it will normally be with a generic arrangement. Even when you start mastering, we sometimes have to go back and turn something down a bit or up a bit so it's really not finished until we send it off to the label for manufacture/distribution.
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 17 Sep, 2002
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- KVRAF
- 10238 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Sometimes I re-arrange while mixing, but more often I find myself mixing while writing/arranging, especially if I hit a speed bump where I'm not quite sure what to to next with the composition. It's not necessarily intentional, but as I try to get an incomplete arrangement to sound somewhat "complete", I sometimes start to hear what's missing, new ideas, etc.
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- 8181 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
Any excuse to re-engage the harem.cryophonik wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:36 pm Sometimes I re-arrange while mixing, but more often I find myself mixing while writing/arranging, especially if I hit a speed bump where I'm not quite sure what to to next with the composition. It's not necessarily intentional, but as I try to get an incomplete arrangement to sound somewhat "complete", I sometimes start to hear what's missing, new ideas, etc.
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