What sample rate you're running your DAW(s) on?

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What sample rate you're running your DAW(s) on?

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KVRAF
10698 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:07 am

Simple question, really.

Also, if you're above 48k, I'd appreciate few words why you need this?

I'm on 24bit/48kHz.
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KVRAF
3590 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:49 am

44.1 due to a weak PC, but as from tomorrow I will be on 48. Should be able to lower my buffer size too. (new pc coming)
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10698 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:03 am

LeVzi wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:49 am
44.1 due to a weak PC, but as from tomorrow I will be on 48. Should be able to lower my buffer size too. (new pc coming)
Congrats! Fingers crossed you're not gonna end up like those many people complaining they've upgraded to new hardware and now have (sometimes much) worse performance :pray:
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KVRAF
3590 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:06 am

antic604 wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:03 am
LeVzi wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:49 am
44.1 due to a weak PC, but as from tomorrow I will be on 48. Should be able to lower my buffer size too. (new pc coming)
Congrats! Fingers crossed you're not gonna end up like those many people complaining they've upgraded to new hardware and now have (sometimes much) worse performance :pray:
I hope not, but tbh the new build makes this look like a calculator tbh lol
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KVRian
888 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:10 am

LeVzi wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:49 am
44.1 due to a weak PC, but as from tomorrow I will be on 48. Should be able to lower my buffer size too. (new pc coming)
I'm not sure it will bring much of quality improvements. 48k just happens to be a standard for TV and cinema, as far as i'm concerned.
88k and up should bring you the benefits you are getting from oversampled plugins without their drawbacks of additional sample rate conversions.
With the big drawback of course that you will use a lot more CPU and HDD space
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KVRAF
3590 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:32 am

FapFilter wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:10 am
LeVzi wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:49 am
44.1 due to a weak PC, but as from tomorrow I will be on 48. Should be able to lower my buffer size too. (new pc coming)
I'm not sure it will bring much of quality improvements. 48k just happens to be a standard for TV and cinema, as far as i'm concerned.
88k and up should bring you the benefits you are getting from oversampled plugins without their drawbacks of additional sample rate conversions.
With the big drawback of course that you will use a lot more CPU and HDD space
Yeah the improvements are tiny but any are good right ?
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KVRian
521 posts since 27 Aug, 2020

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:36 am

Slightly better handling of the oversampling.

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KVRAF
4285 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:42 am

88.2 KHz. Which is double oversampling of standard frequency.
There are many benefits of it, especially reduced aliasing but not only.

Using Ryzen 3900 for the task, but older 1700 also handled it nicely.
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KVRian
888 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:59 am

LeVzi wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:32 am
FapFilter wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:10 am
LeVzi wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:49 am
44.1 due to a weak PC, but as from tomorrow I will be on 48. Should be able to lower my buffer size too. (new pc coming)
I'm not sure it will bring much of quality improvements. 48k just happens to be a standard for TV and cinema, as far as i'm concerned.
88k and up should bring you the benefits you are getting from oversampled plugins without their drawbacks of additional sample rate conversions.
With the big drawback of course that you will use a lot more CPU and HDD space
Yeah the improvements are tiny but any are good right ?
Thing is 44.1 is already pretty much perfect for playback purposes. Of course 48k will shift Nyquist a tiny bit further, but the “biggest“ advantages are gained at heavier processing like heavier saturation / distortion, analog filtering, etc. that's why such plugins usually offer anything from 2x, 4x, 8x up to 128x sometimes and even then the differences can still be relatively subtle.
Of course 48k will give you a 2kHz “advantage“ over 44k on paper, but i personally think only the most golden of golden ears should be able to tell the difference between these two, if anyone at all.
Might of course be wrong though, as i've never actually worked with 48k
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KVRer
2 posts since 29 Sep, 2021

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:25 am

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KVRist
96 posts since 3 May, 2009

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:50 am

88.2 is like running a 2x oversample over all, then, downsample to half is mathematically accurate.
But, there's a cost on CPU and the samples packs must be well oversampled or in native. So, i stick on 44.1K and apply a proper oversampling when need it.

KVRist
182 posts since 31 Aug, 2020

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:58 am

Anything above 44100 is for dogs and bats.

KVRAF
1744 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:43 pm

I ran higher rates for a while, but it simply didn't seem to make much of a difference other than slightly tighter latency when recording. The hassle and requirements of higher rates simply wasn't producing anything worthwhile as far as I could tell so I just rolled back to 44.1kHz and 24-bit. That's what it winds up as in the end anyway.
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KVRAF
29958 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:44 pm

Bulbizarre wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:58 am
Anything above 44100 is for dogs and bats.
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FabBad wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:50 am
So, i stick on 44.1K and apply a proper oversampling when need it.
:tu:
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KVRist
207 posts since 19 Jan, 2009 from West Hollywood

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:53 pm

44.1 is the old standard (CD and streaming). The new standard is 48kHz, in multimedia always been, but streaming services now slowly shifting to 48K and even accept higher sample rates for their Hi-Res content. Dolby Atmos is also 48kHz. It is always better to convert down than to convert up, so at some point it is a matter of future proofing you mixes. Don't assume that technology/standards/requirement doesn't move forward.

Another aspect that the "only for dogs and bats" people often overlook is that fact that any Software Synth or Amp simulation Plugin profits from higher sampling rate based on the underlying math. Often, they use oversampling internally and don't care if you are stuck in the ancient 44.1kHz world.
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