Worrying about using old samples and the legal ramifications...

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vurt
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86411 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:54 am

melomood wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:26 am
vurt wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:24 am
melomood wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:22 am
vurt wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:17 am
in fact im currently sat, with my pipe n slippers, listening to some underground stuff. :)
Almost same
Watching Curb Your Enthusiasm
Might sample Suzy

"You bald f**k!"
Im not bald :o
:hihi: not you
A sample of her yelling it
i still keep slipping mr jones and his fish people in to everything!
it's become my signature sound.
admittedly, through so much granular nonsense it could be anything, but i know it's there...

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thecontrolcentre
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31197 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:59 am

I just samples the drum break from "Frankenstein" by Edgar Winter. Should I expect the sample police to arrive soon? :hihi:

Memsterrr
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Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:04 am

There is great music out there. Undoubtedly. And Hip Hop certainly doesn't have a monopoly on great music. But, it's about preferences, and also social impact that is still relevant. How many revolutionaries or revolutionary thinkers has Hip Hop fostered? We're talking in the thousands. Maybe millions if you consider the fanbase that actually took it onboard. How many other genres are still doing that today? Speaking truth to power. Partaking in critical analysis of socially accepted norms? Not many I can think of. Not saying they don't exist, but Hip Hop is probably the only genre that accommodates this aspect at its very forefront, and always will. And that's what makes it the greatest genre.

And if you're one of those dinosaurs who thinks Music shouldn't be about social issues... then I don't know what to say to you. Other than you're delusional.

Ernst Fischer:

In a decaying society, art, if it is truthful, must also reflect decay. And unless it wants to break faith with its social function, art must show the world as changeable. And help to change it.

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fmr
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10548 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:17 am

Memsterrr wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:04 am
There is great music out there. Undoubtedly. And Hip Hop certainly doesn't have a monopoly on great music. But, it's about preferences, and also social impact that is still relevant. How many revolutionaries or revolutionary thinkers has Hip Hop fostered? We're talking in the thousands. Maybe millions if you consider the fanbase that actually took it onboard. How many other genres are still doing that today? Speaking truth to power. Partaking in critical analysis of socially accepted norms? Not many I can think of. Not saying they don't exist, but Hip Hop is probably the only genre that accommodates this aspect at its very forefront, and always will. And that's what makes it the greatest genre.
:dog: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you think Hip-Hop is the seed for revolution, You ARE delusional
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KVRAF
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Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:18 am

Yeah, Bob Marley who…

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elxsound
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7354 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:27 am

Memsterrr wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:11 am
elxsound wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:25 pm
Memsterrr wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:12 am
elxsound wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:09 pm
The discussion is nice, but yeah... cringe worthy because it was like verbal vomit.

The end result is not bad. Interesting at least.
I don't think it was cringe worthy verbal vomit lol. Why is it that when someone chooses to speak their mind, in an elaborate way it's considered verbal vomit? Should I stick to two liners or a couple of sentences because that's the excepted norm on social media nowadays? 😒. The very reason i stopped posting on social media like Facebook etc. is because everyone is so f**king dumbed down, and it's why I chose forums.

And for the fella who wrote "compose for a change" I'm going to say, piss off 😆 90% of composed music out there today is generic, boring, and they all sound the same. Sampling offers a different landscape, and a better texture if you can flip it right. This is why, to me, Hip Hop will forever be the greatest genre. Especially Hip Hop that uses samples circa 50s - 80s. Imagination > composition.
“Elaborate” :lol:

Are you from Portland? The last person. I remember saying Hip Hop was the greatest genre was this guy from Portland who sampled the Beatles. The song was basically 2 sampled sections of A Day In The Life on loop, but sure Hip Hop was the greatest.

That’s what I say cringe worthy. I like hip hop, but then you get these people standing on the shoulders of actual greats claiming they did it better because they looped it, that’s when I’m out.

I think sampling can be amazing but those that I know who’ve done it well at least respect the music they’ve sampled. They also know how to listen to more than just hip hop.
Yeh, you'd be hard-pressed to actually show me a genre that compares though. I'll wait. And don't say techno or anything that sounds like a f**king electric hazard in full effect 🤣

My tastes are my tastes. Why judge? Hip Hop to me is the greatest genre, because it represents real things. Real struggles. It reflects the decay of society. What does your music genre do other than pander to the well-adjusted and well-off, and thus alienate many people?

I'm talking about real uncompromising Hip Hop here btw, not that fake shit meandering across the airwaves in the form of trap, or highly commercialised cookie cutter Hip Hop for 16 year old girls.

The texture, style and entire art-form that is true Hip Hop, is second to no other genres. In my view. If you have a problem with that, I could't give the slightest shit.

With that said, I do appreciate other genres from which Hip Hop invariably spawned -- Jazz, Rock, Soul etc. etc. etc. But I don't live in the past, nor care much for what it brought to the table. I deal with the current evolution of music and what it does in bringing people together right now, and whether or not it is creating consciousness on social issues and things akin to that... and Hip Hop, with all its simplicity, truthfulness and grit (again, not that fake shit on the radio), has been carrying that burden almost single handedly in my view. No other genre even comes close when it comes t connecting people, or connecting WITH people. It's about being open-minded enough to actually listen.

But I guess Hip Hop will forever be the forgotten, and neglected child, despite having more talent in its little toe, than all of its other musical siblings combined.

Now cringe please at my directness, passion and obviously annoying vernacular 😆
Now that shows your bias. Who the f**k said anything about techno? You assume to much about the people you’re interacting with.

You’re not really that direct, so definitely not a New Yorker. I’m still going with Portland because this is eerily close to something someone I met had said years ago.

And I’m glad you clarified that it’s your taste because I have no intention of convincing you are anyone that they should like a genre over another. Just don’t be surprised when others can point out the hypocrisy in claiming it’s the greatest when you have to sample other works to make it great.

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fmr
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10548 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:37 am

elxsound wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:27 am
Just don’t be surprised when others can point out the hypocrisy in claiming it’s the greatest when you have to sample other works to make it great.
^^^ THIS ^^^
Fernando (FMR)

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Hink
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35012 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:40 am

hey...I got a question pertaining to Fernando's post...how come this didnt automatically link to this pluggin...what gives? :hihi:

OMG too funny, Fernando did link :lol:
Words are a barrier to help-seeking and a motivator for making discrimination acceptable.
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vurt
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86411 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:41 am

the greatest genre in the history of time, wouldnt have given the world vanilla ice.

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fmr
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10548 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:42 am

Hink wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:40 am
hey...I got a question pertaining to Fernando's post...how come this didnt automatically link to this pluggin...what gives? :hihi:

OMG too funny, Fernando did link :lol:

:lol:

Man... Do I look ugly :hihi:
Fernando (FMR)

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elxsound
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Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 am

vurt wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:41 am
the greatest genre in the history of time, wouldnt have given the world vanilla ice.
:idea: --------> What if the one posting is Vanilla Ice?

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Hink
Rad Grandad
35012 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:48 am

vurt wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:41 am
the greatest genre in the history of time, wouldnt have given the world vanilla ice.
well if eventually a monkey could write the complete work of Shakespeare anything is possible :shrug:
Words are a barrier to help-seeking and a motivator for making discrimination acceptable.
Mad Pride
If there is a direction to mankind, it ought to be a coming together Brian May

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elxsound
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Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:50 am

Hink wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:48 am
vurt wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:41 am
the greatest genre in the history of time, wouldnt have given the world vanilla ice.
well if eventually a monkey could write the complete work of Shakespeare anything is possible :shrug:
Does this have anything to do with that other thread, where everyone is asked to add a few words of Shakespear to complete the piece? That's not the monkey, right?

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thecontrolcentre
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31197 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:51 am

elxsound wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:27 am
You assume to much about the people you’re interacting with.

You’re not really that direct, so definitely not a New Yorker. I’m still going with Portland because this is eerily close to something someone I met had said years ago.
:?

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Hink
Rad Grandad
35012 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:54 am

Infinite monkey theorem
The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type any given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare. In fact, the monkey would almost surely type every possible finite text an infinite number of times.
Words are a barrier to help-seeking and a motivator for making discrimination acceptable.
Mad Pride
If there is a direction to mankind, it ought to be a coming together Brian May

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