very disappointment about vps avenger

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KVRist
141 posts since 17 Sep, 2019

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:29 am

I dont really bother with codemeter, but i´d prefer ilok or icloud anyway. For me that´s the only good way in having my licenses in a way where i can switch platforms quickly without having to put serials in all over. For the usability; i´d say every synth has its pros and cons but never had an issue with Avenger; what it does it does really well. Speaking for myselft - before I judge a product I mostly think maybe I would need more time to feel comfortable with. But to each his own.

KVRian
1315 posts since 27 Oct, 2009

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:35 am

digitalboytn wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:25 am
I was on a top secret mission to sample the bratwurst and the coffee,along with a few frauleins :wink:
No, Mr. digitalboytn! Admit it, you were zere to steal ze Code of ze Avengers!

KVRian
907 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:56 am

Avenger sounds like weird plastic. If you like really harsh sounding, plasticky, mega compressed edm you'll probably like the sound though. It kind of hurts my ears. I would sell it but I'm just too lazy lol.

KVRian
887 posts since 29 May, 2011 from Germany

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:59 am

D.K Envelope wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:11 am
he dont write in german maybe he is from netherlands
For the record: He wrote casual, relatively flawless common German.

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KVRAF
2278 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:34 pm

izonin wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:35 am
digitalboytn wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:25 am
I was on a top secret mission to sample the bratwurst and the coffee,along with a few frauleins :wink:
No, Mr. digitalboytn! Admit it, you were zere to steal ze Code of ze Avengers!
OK...I admit it...

I vas zere to steal ze Avenger Kode und to pass it to ze bean counters at Native Instruments Kontrol :wink:
No auto tune and iLok free...

KVRian
1315 posts since 27 Oct, 2009

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:19 pm

digitalboytn wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:34 pm
izonin wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:35 am
digitalboytn wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:25 am
I was on a top secret mission to sample the bratwurst and the coffee,along with a few frauleins :wink:

No, Mr. digitalboytn! Admit it, you were zere to steal ze Code of ze Avengers!
OK...I admit it...

I vas zere to steal ze Avenger Kode und to pass it to ze bean counters at Native Instruments Kontrol :wink:
Aha! Schame on ju! Virst ju steal ze Avenger, zen ze KodeMeter. Und zen wat? Ze KodeKilometer!

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KVRian
1057 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:37 pm

I don't mind that they use CodeMeter. I have Reason, so I already had CodeMeter, and was even able to put my Vengeance licenses on my CMStick (I have a generic one that works great for Reason, but can also be used for other softwares).

But I DO mind that even when you put your Vengeance licenses on a dongle, you STILL have to refresh them every 90 days. And I mind that Manuel hid this fact until people bought into the new scheme, and I mind that when Manuel was called out on this, he lied about it and said that CodeMeter requires the refresh. It does not. This is entirely in the control of the developer.

I pay for ZDT protection on my iLok dongle, which also requires a license refresh every 90 days. But this is my choice. I don't have to use it. Further, it works flawlessly every time. I get a popup when it's needed, and it just works. The Vengeance refresh, on the other hand, is so fundamentally broken that they had to write their own licensing tool to handle the refresh process. Otherwise it would eat up an additional license every time it refreshed.

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KVRAF
4643 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:07 pm

I recently did a clean reinstall of macPOS and all the audio software. As an attempted work-around, I copied back all the plugins and most of their support files from my backups. Most of the plugins worked without requiring a re-install even those with DRM. Some required me to login if they use a call-home. A few so far are requiring a reinstall.

The worst so far as Waves, Melda and Avenger. Waves because I am on V9 and have to use their manual process which is on my to-do list. Melda's installer just hangs and I am working with support on it but they dont know so far what the problem is. Avenger because of CodeMeter. I have to find the time to get on a screensharing call with them so they can debug it. We got the license working but Avenger crashes.

So yeah... be wary of CodeMeter protected software.

KVRist
58 posts since 24 Sep, 2003 from Las Vegas

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:36 pm

I love avenger. I own every expansion. I also own everything else vengeance ever released so I’m very biased 😂

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KVRAF
2278 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:08 pm

izonin wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:19 pm
Aha! Schame on ju! Virst ju steal ze Avenger, zen ze KodeMeter. Und zen wat? Ze KodeKilometer!
:lol:

The best answer for people who are pissed off with the introduction of CodeMeter and a lack of sincere help from the developer of Avenger,is not to buy it...

After the sales drop off,the developer may start to get the message and hopefully reach out and listen to the peeps who were keeping him in business...

That is the real power we have as consumers...

The best news is that there are plenty of great synths and effects out there in a very crowded marketplace :tu:
No auto tune and iLok free...

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KVRAF
3260 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:46 pm

Guys, it is clear he is not a native English speaker, pointing the grammar errors is just rude. People in first world countries with better education never get it, you know how to make people feel unwelcome.
dedication to flying

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KVRAF
1699 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:54 pm

Avenger is my favourite synth ever. The expansions are greater than great.
Its copy protection is quite stupid, but it works. The few users that are unhappy with it are barking loud, but the truth is that most users are dealing with it and are making music.
You can try it. If you buy it and regret it, then you pay the fee, that's how it works. Sorry for you.
This post is supposed to be non-agressive. Now please give me a broad smile. :ud:

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KVRist
468 posts since 18 Sep, 2010

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:13 pm

Avenger 1.4 is great!

Avenger 1.5+ with CodeMeter is more trouble than it's worth. Still on 1.4.

KVRist

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371 posts since 28 Oct, 2018

Post Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:33 pm

DJErmac wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:54 pm
Avenger is my favourite synth ever. The expansions are greater than great.
Its copy protection is quite stupid, but it works. The few users that are unhappy with it are barking loud, but the truth is that most users are dealing with it and are making music.
You can try it. If you buy it and regret it, then you pay the fee, that's how it works. Sorry for you.
ufff Fanboys :)

its a shit company that bothered loyal customers
punch in their faces , because of a cracker group

and forced us to buy expensive expansions, this synth sounds rubbish in my opinion
gui its a mess , copy protections is a nightmare

i have no positive words , its the only company with Reason that shit on their customers

enough said

KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:04 am

D.K Envelope wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:33 pm
DJErmac wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:54 pm
Avenger is my favourite synth ever. The expansions are greater than great.
Its copy protection is quite stupid, but it works. The few users that are unhappy with it are barking loud, but the truth is that most users are dealing with it and are making music.
You can try it. If you buy it and regret it, then you pay the fee, that's how it works. Sorry for you.
ufff Fanboys :)

its a shit company that bothered loyal customers
punch in their faces , because of a cracker group

and forced us to buy expensive expansions, this synth sounds rubbish in my opinion
gui its a mess , copy protections is a nightmare

i have no positive words , its the only company with Reason that shit on their customers

enough said
How is anyone forced to buy expansions?
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