What would you want in Serum 2

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KVRAF
2083 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:42 am

A HUGE X in the name, so not Serum 2 rather Serum X : )

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KVRAF
16439 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:12 am

That would be a massive rip off.
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KVRist
328 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:13 am

chk071 wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:06 am
kobal wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:26 am
price is not a problem it s well worth the price and if you count all the update for free, it s kinda not super expensive synth.. lot of companies would charge for these updates
Like?
lot of the big ones who don t care about adding resquested feature till a v2.. i dont even ask them for features anymore, it s pointless .
Last edited by kobal on Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:15 am, edited 1 time in total.

KVRAF
30020 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:15 am

You will laugh. I read a lot of times here that Steve doesn't update Serum with "much requested features". Whatever "much requested features" are. Probably the features the guy who says that wants the most.
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KVRist
328 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:16 am

chk071 wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:15 am
You will laugh. I read a lot of times here that Steve doesn't update Serum with "much requested features". Whatever "much requested features" are. Probably the features the guy who says that wants the most.
ahh maybe i have no idea but he added many feature for free, only others i know like that are maybe tal and parawave and i must forget some.

it s funny cause serum and rapid are nfr but these are synth i will never want to resell, they added so many things thse are already really mature plugins and it s not over, it feel better when a companie concentrate on just one or few plugins and make them better than a whole lot . for me serum could be left like that.. and he could make a other synths.. there is always things that can be better but it s feel already mature work.. not half baked and sold then updated 2 years later to milk the cow with a V2

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KVRAF

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11392 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:07 am

kobal wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:39 am
some different mode on the osc sound ,kinda like waldorf M, a other filter parrallel /serial switch ,more filters type with some with fm , maybe granular.
The quantize will let you lower the bit depth of the wavetables. Do you mean something else?
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KVRAF

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11392 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:10 am

Teksonik wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:14 am
kobal wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:26 am
price is not a problem
It is for me. Price is why I've never purchased Serum. Maybe it's because I've got a folder full of other synths and Serum is only a 2 Osc synth. :shrug:
Technically true, but you can use the noise generator as a third sample based oscillator.
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KVRAF
16439 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:16 am

zerocrossing wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:10 am
Teksonik wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:14 am
kobal wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:26 am
price is not a problem
It is for me. Price is why I've never purchased Serum. Maybe it's because I've got a folder full of other synths and Serum is only a 2 Osc synth. :shrug:
Technically true, but you can use the noise generator as a third sample based oscillator.
Well that still leaves it one Osc short of Vital....... :shrug:
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KVRist
384 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:26 am

What ever Joel wants?
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KVRAF
4311 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:01 pm

Now that I did some comparison... Massive X, Pigments, Rapid and Vital all have very similiar feature set and GUI. This direction and standard was set by Serum, but now everyone has matched or exceeded it and Serum needs to catch up.

It still has oustanding wavetable warp / edit / import tools, but otherwise could get some polish here and there.

Sure one could add fully-fledged FM, sample or granular playback to it, but then it will end up as something entirely different and not neccessarily better. Too many disjointed features might drown it.
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KVRist
328 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:07 pm

zerocrossing wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:07 am
kobal wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:39 am
some different mode on the osc sound ,kinda like waldorf M, a other filter parrallel /serial switch ,more filters type with some with fm , maybe granular.
The quantize will let you lower the bit depth of the wavetables. Do you mean something else?
yes different mode that are more evolved than just bit and sample rate depth ,this as you mention we can do ourself but not sure it s a good features idea.
Last edited by kobal on Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

KVRist
328 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:10 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:14 am
kobal wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:26 am
price is not a problem
It is for me. Price is why I've never purchased Serum. Maybe it's because I've got a folder full of other synths and Serum is only a 2 Osc synth. :shrug:
yes with vital i can undertand that and for today the price might be expensive indeed.. i was thinking cause it s many years i use it so it was well worht the price with all the added features and overall good experience of using it

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KVRist
267 posts since 21 Jul, 2020

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:01 pm

Massive X is still alien to me. Feels completely unnatural to program that synth. Always did love Serum's workflow though.

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KVRian
1299 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future

Post Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:23 am

Price is what stop me to buy it then and now - my entire A-Team of fav vst synths cost less :)
Like it,it's comfy quality synth,but not enough to spend so much money for it.
if Serum II add functionality users want may consider adding it to the arsenal.
Cheers :)

KVRAF
6636 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:40 am

Dunno why people complain about the price :P
Got the vst since some years now. I guess vital changed the perspective and people expect all synths on par with vital to be free or less costing... the market changes i guess so xfer seems to release serum 2 to make it again interesting for people ;).

I recently downloaded vital and it is crazy what gets released as freeware nowadays! Really impressive!
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