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KVRist
100 posts since 17 Oct, 2020

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:40 am

I've been dabbling in music for around 10 years now and I still suck ass. The cool thing is I'm pretty sure I'll still do it for the next 10 years.

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addled muppet weed
85970 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:30 am

Azbest wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:40 am
I've been dabbling in music for around 10 years now and I still suck ass. The cool thing is I'm pretty sure I'll still do it for the next 10 years.
pfft come back when youve done 30 odd years and are still shite! :party:

KVRist
100 posts since 17 Oct, 2020

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:21 pm

vurt wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:30 am
Azbest wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:40 am
I've been dabbling in music for around 10 years now and I still suck ass. The cool thing is I'm pretty sure I'll still do it for the next 10 years.
pfft come back when youve done 30 odd years and are still shite! :party:
Consistence is the key, that includes consistent suckage. 8)

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KVRian
809 posts since 4 Feb, 2021

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:40 am

None of you are shite. If you can model and organize white noise, giving it just a few structures, you are making music, imo, and I like it. There are just some I like more than other. Stay on the good side with your muse and respect those of your fellow men.
Tribe Of Hǫfuð https://soundcloud.com/user-228690154 "First rule: From one perfect consonance to another perfect consonance one must proceed in contrary or obligue motion." Johann Joseph Fux 1725.

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addled muppet weed
85970 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:18 am

TribeOfHǫfuð wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:40 am
None of you are shite.
that's your opinion.
spend a day or two in a studio with me before you make such a final statement :tantrum: ill show you!! :x

KVRian
1345 posts since 17 Sep, 2002

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:03 pm

vurt wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:18 am
TribeOfHǫfuð wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:40 am
None of you are shite.
that's your opinion.
spend a day or two in a studio with me before you make such a final statement :tantrum: ill show you!! :x
Don't threaten us with a good time

KVRist
187 posts since 31 May, 2017

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:31 pm

I wonder if some people simply wear way too many hats (or assume they need to), and overthink the entire process. Making music doesn't need to be remotely as complex as many make it, with no detriment to the quality of the output.

Wearing too many hats can lead to creative exhaustion, confusion and slow progress.

KVRer
8 posts since 21 Oct, 2021

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:55 am

Music production, like every art takes a while to get used to. I started photography 7 years ago and still learn new techniques but I also feel confident in what I do and can reproduce different lighting situations out of my head. It takes effort to move on...keep it going...it will become second nature eventually.

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addled muppet weed
85970 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:03 am

cantaloupe wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:31 pm
I wonder if some people simply wear way too many hats
during the early part of lockdown, i went a bit weird, spent a small fortune on a lot of hats :oops:
seriously, when am i going to wear a bloody fez?

KVRer
10 posts since 17 Oct, 2021

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:01 pm

mindgap wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:55 am
Music production, like every art takes a while to get used to. I started photography 7 years ago and still learn new techniques but I also feel confident in what I do and can reproduce different lighting situations out of my head. It takes effort to move on...keep it going...it will become second nature eventually.
It's actually great you brought this up, because this will always be a thing for OP. In music production, you can always learn something new. I've given up on music and came back repeatedly, so I know the cycle, and find it more exhilarating when I just try new things. If OP is comparing himself to others constantly, that entire mindset will be a negative, so it's best to enjoy music as an internal thing.

OP needs to challenge themselves to keep things interesting. I've been through similar problems in a decade-long journey, and the one thing that keeps me motivated to work on music daily is the challenges and unique things I can learn. They can learn how to make a 4 bar loop into an 8 bar, then a 16 bar, then a 32 (no matter how bad they think it is). Read books on production, sampling, go over scales you don't necessarily use or think about, etc. I spend a few hours a day just working on things that slowly become performable to an audience, but the satisfaction comes in surprising myself with what my mind can come up with. Keeping things new and attempting what I didn't in the previous track provides the unknown, but I find it intriguing. Coming up with stories helps advance my production, too, so there's no limit to the creativity you can apply to move yourself out of a rut.

If you're still not feeling it, take a break and come back refreshed. Production is just like life; it's a journey. Sometimes, you have off-times, and sometimes, you're atop of the world and able to crank good stuff out in short amounts of time.

KVRAF
29959 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:07 pm

cryophonik wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:52 am
As for loop-itis, sometimes the best thing to do is to just finish it. One thing you can do is borrow an arrangement from another similar reference track. For example, 8 bars of intro with an atmospheric vibe on the tonic chord, 16 bars of the main theme with drum buildups and exotic percussion, 16 bars of a secondary theme, etc. Use your own musical ideas derived from your 4-bar loop, but use the reference track as a framework/road map and just make it work. Yes, it will probably feel a little formulaic, but hopefully the momentum you gain will be enough to finish it and you can always look for ways to switch up the arrangement along the way.
Hey, that's some great adivce. I will try to put that into practice. :)
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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Banned
66 posts since 21 Jul, 2021 from Over There.

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:13 pm

vurt wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:03 am
cantaloupe wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:31 pm
I wonder if some people simply wear way too many hats
seriously, when am i going to wear a bloody fez?
Wear it when performing magic tricks and telling stupid but funny jokes. It worked for Mr Cooper.

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GRRRRRRR!
12567 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:59 pm

Kinh wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:51 pm
You gotsta have music goals otherwise there's no initiative.
I don't agree with that at all. I spend hours every night just playing around because I like playing around. e.g. I have spent the last week-and-a-half working up a cover of Ultravox's I Remember (Death in the Afternoon), even though I know I'll never do anything with it - it's too obscure to do if I ever get my 80s cover thing off the ground and it's not at all suitable for NOVAkILL - so eventually I will declare it finished and find something else to do. But for the moment, I am having a ball just doing it for the sake of doing it.

Once we have a new goal, it will get serious and just be hard, boring, horrible work again.
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KVRAF
4683 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:08 am

delete your presets and separate yourself from the scene. Yes, it's a slow process, and the end result shows.

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addled muppet weed
85970 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:20 am

Old Nick wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:13 pm
vurt wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:03 am
cantaloupe wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:31 pm
I wonder if some people simply wear way too many hats
seriously, when am i going to wear a bloody fez?
Wear it when performing magic tricks and telling stupid but funny jokes. It worked for Mr Cooper.
thats my issue!
if i wear the fez, people will expect that.
then imagine i trip and break my leg, everyone stands around laughing, thinking im being clumsy. not to mention, i wear my wizards hat while performing magick (i did state i bought lots of hats)

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