PluginGuru Unify - Demo Version - ADSR ignored? how stable?

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Caine123
KVRAF
6773 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:55 pm

hey guys i demo UNIFY atm and i kinda like the LAYERING idea but i dunno how crashy or non crashy this plugin is? i somehow dunno if this plugin is really stable when you e.g. 5 different VST instruments for a layer?

i created 3 layers each with Serum, loaded 3 different presets but ALWAYS when i play one instrument it just ignores my Release setting. i didnt find any option why it does it? even long ppads with long release it just stops when i hold off the midi key. any idea?

and how stable is unify? how are your experiences when layering different synths/vsts?
thx
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NikkiA
KVRist
111 posts since 24 Jul, 2006

Post Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:06 pm

Caine123 wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:55 pm
hey guys i demo UNIFY atm and i kinda like the LAYERING idea but i dunno how crashy or non crashy this plugin is? i somehow dunno if this plugin is really stable when you e.g. 5 different VST instruments for a layer?

i created 3 layers each with Serum, loaded 3 different presets but ALWAYS when i play one instrument it just ignores my Release setting. i didnt find any option why it does it? even long ppads with long release it just stops when i hold off the midi key. any idea?

and how stable is unify? how are your experiences when layering different synths/vsts?
thx
I don't think it's ever crashed on me, rock steady stable.

As to the release thing, it's because 1.6 defaults to Midi start/quick stop for the transport - Unify has it's own bar/beat counter internally, which is useful for a lot of things, and by default, with 1.6, it starts playback on any key down, and stops on any key up, where stop flushes the output.

To fix this, you can switch the transport mode to manual, open the transport controls (the >| icon next to the CPU meter) and click where it says 'Trigger: MIDI/Quick Stop' and select 'Manual'. I think manual is supposed to be the new default in 1.7 according to something I think I read on the forums.

Caine123
KVRAF

Topic Starter

6773 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:52 am

NikkiA wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Caine123 wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:55 pm
hey guys i demo UNIFY atm and i kinda like the LAYERING idea but i dunno how crashy or non crashy this plugin is? i somehow dunno if this plugin is really stable when you e.g. 5 different VST instruments for a layer?

i created 3 layers each with Serum, loaded 3 different presets but ALWAYS when i play one instrument it just ignores my Release setting. i didnt find any option why it does it? even long ppads with long release it just stops when i hold off the midi key. any idea?

and how stable is unify? how are your experiences when layering different synths/vsts?
thx
I don't think it's ever crashed on me, rock steady stable.

As to the release thing, it's because 1.6 defaults to Midi start/quick stop for the transport - Unify has it's own bar/beat counter internally, which is useful for a lot of things, and by default, with 1.6, it starts playback on any key down, and stops on any key up, where stop flushes the output.

To fix this, you can switch the transport mode to manual, open the transport controls (the >| icon next to the CPU meter) and click where it says 'Trigger: MIDI/Quick Stop' and select 'Manual'. I think manual is supposed to be the new default in 1.7 according to something I think I read on the forums.
that is it!!!! thx so much i just played only some minutes with it, im still thinking about it but i really like the layering option and could be handy if you work with different DAWs some times normally Patcher is enough for this in FL Studio already.

i wonder if you could theoretically load in Alchemy 2 if it would be a AU for Windows haha
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StarSMASH
KVRer
22 posts since 2 Apr, 2020

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:01 pm

NikkiA wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Caine123 wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:55 pm
hey guys i demo UNIFY atm and i kinda like the LAYERING idea but i dunno how crashy or non crashy this plugin is? i somehow dunno if this plugin is really stable when you e.g. 5 different VST instruments for a layer?

i created 3 layers each with Serum, loaded 3 different presets but ALWAYS when i play one instrument it just ignores my Release setting. i didnt find any option why it does it? even long ppads with long release it just stops when i hold off the midi key. any idea?

and how stable is unify? how are your experiences when layering different synths/vsts?
thx
I don't think it's ever crashed on me, rock steady stable.

As to the release thing, it's because 1.6 defaults to Midi start/quick stop for the transport - Unify has it's own bar/beat counter internally, which is useful for a lot of things, and by default, with 1.6, it starts playback on any key down, and stops on any key up, where stop flushes the output.

To fix this, you can switch the transport mode to manual, open the transport controls (the >| icon next to the CPU meter) and click where it says 'Trigger: MIDI/Quick Stop' and select 'Manual'. I think manual is supposed to be the new default in 1.7 according to something I think I read on the forums.
thank you so much!

dmetsys
KVRer
7 posts since 26 Mar, 2013

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:25 pm

Or, for the release ignored case, you can disable ‘Silence note+effect tails when host transport stops’ in global setting of Serum.

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plexuss
KVRAF
4717 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:52 pm

Here's a track I did using 7 instances of Unify, each with many layers, and Microtonic. Unify is pretty amazing. On the surface it just seems like a plugin layering solution. It's much more with the ways in which the layers can be controlled and played.


https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/fairy-flight

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