A VST plugin with tracker-style note input that outputs MIDI to host?

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antic604
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11268 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:34 am

Is there such a thing? Like Redux, but with MIDI output?

:pray:
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SLiC
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Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:37 am

I think Sunvox does

https://www.warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/ ?

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Marth
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11 posts since 30 Jul, 2014

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:00 am

Maybe reViSiT?

https://revisit.info/

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1214 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:19 am

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BriocheBaps
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10 posts since 25 Oct, 2020

Post Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:31 am

antic604 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:34 am
Is there such a thing? Like Redux, but with MIDI output?

:pray:
Did you find anything like this yet? Perhaps we need to harass Taktik to give Redux MIDI Out instead ha.

Protocol_b
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256 posts since 11 Nov, 2012

Post Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:30 am

That is a rare form of note input, I prefer an internal piano roll like Stochas (free). Nora and Phrasebox also have an internal piano roll (in a way - you'd have to look at them to see what I mean - it is a 'relative' piano roll, with the low note related to the lowest note you feed into them, like an arpeggiator).

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antic604
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11268 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:28 pm

BriocheBaps wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:31 am
antic604 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:34 am
Is there such a thing? Like Redux, but with MIDI output?

:pray:
Did you find anything like this yet? Perhaps we need to harass Taktik to give Redux MIDI Out instead ha.
No. Let's do it :)
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rafa1981
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673 posts since 4 Jan, 2007

Post Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:36 pm

Count me in. But something tells me it won't fly...

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foosnark
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6034 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:38 pm

Teletype in VCV 2 can do this (it's got a 4-channel tracker-like portion of the interface for storing numeric patterns, and you can use that for note numbers, lengths, whatever).

I'm used to telling Eurorack people "Teletype can do that..." and it amuses me to be able to do that on the VST side as well now :D

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Synthack
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590 posts since 4 Dec, 2021 from Canada

Post Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:12 pm

I'm kind of thinking it wouldn't work the same without having the Sampler built directly into the tracker because that's kind of how the magic all happens. Like with all the added commands you send per step and so forth.

However i think when you strip all the commands per step you are left with a basic step sequencer.

I don't really know though as I've only dabbled in Renoise briefly. I might have to return to it thought because it is fun to mangle samples using trackers.
Do you have them all yet?

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cthonophonic
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497 posts since 1 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:48 am

There are a few tracker commands like sample offsets or reverse playback that obviously couldn't be generalized to any synth, but there's nothing stopping a tracker from performing most of its functions over MIDI. Note effects like retriggering, vibrato, portamento, chiptune-y arpeggios, etc. all work fine, at least in Jeskola Buzz (the only tracker I've used to control VSTs). For pitch based effects, you just need an instrument that's able to accept pitch bends independently on different MIDI channels, MPE-style. Conversely, for a tracker VST sending MIDI to the host, I guess the host would need to be able to interpret multi-channel MIDI correctly. Aside from that, there shouldn't be any technical barrier preventing a tracker plugin from working.

While this isn't quite the same thing, someone has already made a tracker plugin for Reaper, though I've never used it, not being a Reaper user myself:
https://github.com/JoepVanlier/Hackey-Trackey

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