This 80s/90s Lead Synth in Plugin

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vad.martyn
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27 posts since 30 Sep, 2021

Post Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:45 pm

I’m looking for this type of lead synth.
Tried finding and tweaking presets in omnisphere, found similar sounding ones like “brass leads” but nothing close enough.
Or how to create a same exact sound in omnisphere or any other synth ?
Or What is the waveform of this synth sound to start with ?
https://youtu.be/fleLcP0E5N8

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Impedance Music
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41 posts since 27 Apr, 2019

Post Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:57 pm

That Brass sound reminds me of the "Brass 01" Preset from the Roland D-50.
https://youtu.be/f1C8nzj2IRM?t=1311

It uses 4 Oscillators with Saw-Waves on each (The D-50 is structured with two main parts with two oscillators each). The Filter Cutoff is set to ~57% on every Osc. On both of the two main parts is a Pitch Envelope Generator (Attack 3%, everything else 30%). I guess the chorus at the end gives the tone its character. I hope these details are at least little bit helpfull, but probably just to the people owning the machine, or a replika from Roland like the VST Version or the hardware D-05. But since it´s not using the internal sample sounds, i could see if i can replicate it in some freeware synths. I would start with two saw-waves at the same octave and detune it a bit. After that i would load in a 3rd Oscillator and pitch it down an octave and than set the filter to about 50% - this value depends on the Synth used. After that i would edit the AMP Envelope and the Filter Envelope. At the end i would programm an pitch envelope and with Chorus and Reverb maybe getting a little bit close to it - in theory.

And I think that sound might be layered with that infamous Orchestra Hit Sample from the Fairlight but maybe that´s just my ears. I don´t know how helpful i was with my answer, that sound just triggered my memories of that D-50 Preset :hihi:
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vad.martyn
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27 posts since 30 Sep, 2021

Post Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:34 pm

thank you much for help.
I have Roland Cloud D-50.
Looks like roland renamed patches in the software version, because there’s no “Brass 01”, but the Brass patches do sound like the one I’m looking for.
Only weird thing that mod wheel doesn’t trigger vibrato in D-50 VST version. If I remember correctly almost every patch in hardware D-50 has vibrato controlled by joystick’s forward direction

Examigan
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6369 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:14 pm

I just tried it in the VST version, and the mod wheel adds vibrato (if was assigned that way).

vad.martyn
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27 posts since 30 Sep, 2021

Post Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:26 pm

Examigan wrote:
Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:14 pm
I just tried it in the VST version, and the mod wheel adds vibrato (if was assigned that way).
Which patch brass did you try ?


Maybe it doesn’t work for me because in this particular project I have a midi track in Cubase controlling vst instruments thru midi send

Examigan
KVRAF
6369 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:42 pm

Brass Tacks, Rich Brass, Slap Brass (slight effect on that one)..

Kinh
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1764 posts since 26 Aug, 2012

Post Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:59 am

Dere are many ov presets wit dat sound in synth Anthony 3

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Impedance Music
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41 posts since 27 Apr, 2019

Post Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:21 pm

vad.martyn wrote:
Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:34 pm
thank you much for help.
You´re welcome :)
vad.martyn wrote:
Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:34 pm
Looks like roland renamed patches in the software version, because there’s no “Brass 01”, but the Brass patches do sound like the one I’m looking for.
That preset is probably not in the software - I did some "research" and i think that preset comes from the company Rec´Up which sold Presetcards back in the 80s - so it´s most likely that it isn´t included because it is a third party preset. I attached the Sysex File which i exported from my D-50 - I hope it works with the Cloud Software because i´ve no way of trying it out.
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Examigan
KVRAF
6369 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:56 am

Impedance Music wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:21 pm
I attached the Sysex File which i exported from my D-50 - I hope it works with the Cloud Software because i´ve no way of trying it out.
I just tried and it works.

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