Tracktion Collective: comparable to modern hardware workstations in sound quality?

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urlwolf
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568 posts since 23 Dec, 2002

Post Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:20 am

I want something simple where I can dial in sounds (many acoustic) and get going with composing or recording.
In the past this was workstations; but now I see options for daw work.
How's the quality in Tracktion Collective? Would I get this immediacy that I'm looking for? Do I need a very powerful computer to run say a dozen tracks?
I'm thinking about doing it on linux, with an old (but powerful, i7) computer.

rlared
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712 posts since 1 Aug, 2016

Post Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:01 pm

You can demo Tracktion and Collective I believe, give it a shot

Examigan
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6688 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:17 pm

Yep, it has a 90 day trial. :)

k2006
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209 posts since 18 Jan, 2014

Post Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 pm

Tracktion Collective is free with computer music magazine viewtopic.php?t=570427

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GaryG
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6997 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:17 pm

k2006 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 pm Tracktion Collective is free with computer music magazine viewtopic.php?t=570427 
I'd advise checking out whether the software is still available before spending any money. I've accessed CMs from a month or two back online (Readly etc) and found one-off deals like this (as opposed to new additions to the CM Studio) aren't always available, links no longer work.

I recall this was just a redemption code in the download from filesilo so fingers crossed this one will still work.

As for the original question, I was impressed by the sounds, wide ranging and well recorded. Not a massive fan of the GUI but all worked fine for me in Waveform and Reaper.
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Examigan
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6688 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:06 am

Here are some factory preset examples I put together with no external effects added.

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/collective-demo

urlwolf
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568 posts since 23 Dec, 2002

Post Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:55 am

Thanks Examigan. Yes, I've listened to a few demos. My demo is plagued with the whitenoise from hell, and I haven't been able to fix it. Ie registration does nothing. But I'm more interested in your opinion if you are familiar with modern workstations (I'm not).

Examigan
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6688 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:52 am

Unfortunately I’ve never used a hardware workstation.

Collective is pretty versatile and well worth it esp. when they have a sale. I think it was only around $37 a while ago.

zzz00m
KVRAF
3169 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:49 pm

urlwolf wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:20 am I want something simple where I can dial in sounds (many acoustic) and get going with composing or recording.
In the past this was workstations; but now I see options for daw work.
How's the quality in Tracktion Collective? Would I get this immediacy that I'm looking for? Do I need a very powerful computer to run say a dozen tracks?
I'm thinking about doing it on linux, with an old (but powerful, i7) computer.
I would say Collective covers many of the "bread and butter" ROMpler sounds. Plus you can go under the hood and edit the patches, or make your own, if that is your thing. It is a synth after all...

But the variety of factory patches in each category is somewhat limited, and you may end up spending a bit of time tweaking them to taste.

You may want to also take a look at AIR Xpand!2, which is often on sale for cheap.

It is older, but at one time it was an exclusive of Pro Tools, so the sounds are fairly decent, and there are something like 2500+ presets, covering just about every instrument category. It is 4-part multi-timbral, so it can be set to respond to 4 MIDI channels per instance. The main drawback is there is not much synth programming available, just some macro controls for the overall sound. But it is a quick sketching tool with a light footprint. Sample file size is only about 1.5GB.

Finding a good software "ROMpler" (comparable to a hardware workstation) for your use as an "all-in-one" is not an easy task for free or cheap. If money is not a big obstacle, take a look at the Korg Collection 3, where you can get the Korg Triton and Triton Extreme, with all of the expansion sounds included. That is a Korg produced software replica of one of their best classic hardware workstations.

But if you want to go Linux, your options would be more limited. I'm not aware of any mainstream hardware workstation emulations that run native under Linux. Collective might be your only option for that.
Windows10 and too many plugins

gaggle of hermits
KVRian
549 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:25 am

urlwolf wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:55 am Thanks Examigan. Yes, I've listened to a few demos. My demo is plagued with the whitenoise from hell, and I haven't been able to fix it. Ie registration does nothing. But I'm more interested in your opinion if you are familiar with modern workstations (I'm not).
if registration is doing nothing to improve the demo, you may have trouble running the paid-for version as it's the same copy protection being used. if you're on windows, it may be the good old run-as-admin issue, though.

and no, it isn't like a hardware workstation. it's a perfectly good rompler but if you're comparing against the way a fantom or similar is programmed, you're going to find it's too different. half the time, a smiley-face eq will give you the slightly hyped sound of a workstation on any rompler plugin. but out of the box, no.

monkeygenius
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41 posts since 22 Sep, 2019

Post Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:26 am

GaryG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:17 pm
k2006 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 pm Tracktion Collective is free with computer music magazine viewtopic.php?t=570427 
I'd advise checking out whether the software is still available before spending any money. I've accessed CMs from a month or two back online (Readly etc) and found one-off deals like this (as opposed to new additions to the CM Studio) aren't always available, links no longer work.

I recall this was just a redemption code in the download from filesilo so fingers crossed this one will still work.
I just checked, and it is still available. You do indeed use a redemption code and Collective and the Beta Maxed sound pack will be added to your Tracktion account.

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GaryG
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6997 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:04 am

monkeygenius wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:26 am
GaryG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:17 pm
k2006 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 pm Tracktion Collective is free with computer music magazine viewtopic.php?t=570427 
I'd advise checking out whether the software is still available before spending any money. I've accessed CMs from a month or two back online (Readly etc) and found one-off deals like this (as opposed to new additions to the CM Studio) aren't always available, links no longer work.

I recall this was just a redemption code in the download from filesilo so fingers crossed this one will still work.
I just checked, and it is still available. You do indeed use a redemption code and Collective and the Beta Maxed sound pack will be added to your Tracktion account.
Cool. Then those with a free Readly trial or library access can probably get it for nowt.
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Danilo Villanova
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693 posts since 30 Apr, 2018

Post Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:07 am

I got it a couple months ago from CM. It was sn older issue and it worked fine. I haven’t used it much though so I can’t comment on the quality. Those hardware workstations have some pretreatment good sounds, depending on the make and model. This type of plugin sounds pretty generic to me but with the righ processing chain it can be made to sound good.

Examigan
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6688 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:06 pm

Another bread-and-butter plugin (more of a rompler than Collective) you might want to check out is Purity.
https://sonic-cat.com/purity/

zzz00m
KVRAF
3169 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:22 pm

Examigan wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:06 pm Another bread-and-butter plugin (more of a rompler than Collective) you might want to check out is Purity.
https://sonic-cat.com/purity/
Purity looks very interesting, but appears to be only Win/Mac, so not a native Linux solution.
urlwolf wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:20 am I'm thinking about doing it on linux, with an old (but powerful, i7) computer.
Windows10 and too many plugins

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