KVR Audio

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:00 pm

I’m usually very happy to pay for my instruments and almost always donate to things I use frequently, but in this case it’s probably going to be a one-off tune. I’m not generally a horns guy… frankly I don’t even like synth brass patches, but this song is sort of begging for it. Kind of a James Brownesque kind of thing. It doesn’t have to be super detailed or great, like SWAM Brass (I’ve got their SWAM Cello which I love a lot).

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:08 pm

Song missing?

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:20 pm

e-crooner wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:08 pm Song missing?

I’m just starting production on it. All I have is a scratch drum track.

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:27 pm

Ah, I thought you had a specific song by James the wife beater Brown in mind and forgot to paste the video link

Erisian · Post by **Erisian** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:34 pm

I believe this is physically modeled and as far as I remember, it sounds quite good.

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/3008/

If 32bit is OK, DSK have one.

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/186/

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:03 pm

Some good horn samples ...
http://www.mihaisorohan.net/

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:34 pm

Wow, the SWAM horn thingy is 250 euros, and ideally you need to have a very capable Midi controller in order to make use of all the fine details.

Are you looking for a single instrument or a horn section?

chroma · Post by **chroma** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:44 pm

do you have any kind of sampler? even GarageBand has some passable basic brass…

have seen zero-g phantom horns for <$20 before. It’s loops not a sample library per se but includes James brown style loops….

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:07 pm

Air's Xpand has 80 brass sounds, some of them pretty good.
Xpand is rather cheap...

The level is like with these two patches:
https://app.box.com/s/in5eocwncrzo2hjh8ve9387ofjgebtfs

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:28 am

e-crooner wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:34 pm Wow, the SWAM horn thingy is 250 euros, and ideally you need to have a very capable Midi controller in order to make use of all the fine details.

Are you looking for a single instrument or a horn section?

I know. I really do want the SWAM collection, but wow. If I used horns in a lot of my songs, I’d be all about it, but I can’t see me using it much after I’m done with this track.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:30 am

chroma wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:44 pm do you have any kind of sampler? even GarageBand has some passable basic brass…

have seen zero-g phantom horns for <$20 before. It’s loops not a sample library per se but includes James brown style loops….

I’ve got Kontakt, UVI Falcon, and TAL. I’m not sure loops would work because I have specific lines in mind.

mixyguy2 · Post by **mixyguy2** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:31 am

Erisian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:34 pm If 32bit is OK, DSK have one.

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/186/

No offense but I tried that and IMO it was terrible.

OP: by "horn" you do mean "French horn" or are you open to brass generally?

If the latter, this is an OUTSTANDING free trumpet. Better than paid ones I have heard. https://www.norrlandsamples.com/

If you're looking for some passable brass generally, check some of the free orchestral libraries like VSCO, etc. They tend to be sections or ensembles though, not sure about solo instruments.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:47 am

Erisian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:34 pm I believe this is physically modeled and as far as I remember, it sounds quite good.

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/3008/

If 32bit is OK, DSK have one.

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/186/

I think the DSK one will run in Bitwig. Could be good. Thanks.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:50 am

mixyguy2 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:31 am
Erisian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:34 pm If 32bit is OK, DSK have one.

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/186/
No offense but I tried that and IMO it was terrible.

OP: by "horn" you do mean "French horn" or are you open to brass generally?

If the latter, this is an OUTSTANDING free trumpet. Better than paid ones I have heard. https://www.norrlandsamples.com/

If you're looking for some passable brass generally, check some of the free orchestral libraries like VSCO, etc. They tend to be sections or ensembles though, not sure about solo instruments.

I mean what you’d find in a James Brown or Earth Wind And Fire track. I guess trumpet, trombone and sax (which I’m aware isn’t a horn)

mixyguy2 · Post by **mixyguy2** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:56 am

You will find all of the above in such tracks.

For a very basic sax but IMO a good general sound and free, DVS Sax is worth a look. A cheap one (only $20, $10 on their half off sales) is Embertone's Sensual Sax, very good IMO, more expressive.

8Dio has IMO a very good brass ensemble, the "lite" version if you get on a half off sale (they have many sales) is $30ish

Free/cheap or physically modeled horn instrument? (Sample library OK too…)