Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects

[teilo]

So Steinberg is releasing brand new app - “VST Live” and with new licensing system but, it is NOT Apple M silicone native..?!
Cubase Pro is and so is Wavelab…
WTF?! Or am I missing something here..?

It says it's native right in the System Requirements.

[Atlatnesiti]

So Steinberg is releasing brand new app - “VST Live” and with new licensing system but, it is NOT Apple M silicone native..?!
Cubase Pro is and so is Wavelab…
WTF?! Or am I missing something here..?

It says it's native right in the System Requirements.

Well, when I go to about this app, it says intel

[machinesworking]

So Steinberg is releasing brand new app - “VST Live” and with new licensing system but, it is NOT Apple M silicone native..?!
Cubase Pro is and so is Wavelab…
WTF?! Or am I missing something here..?

From the System requirements page on their site:

Apple silicon–based Mac:
Native App, Rosetta 2 App

So it's native from the start. Looks pretty cool, a MainStage clone really.
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-live/compare-editions/

[teilo]

So Steinberg is releasing brand new app - “VST Live” and with new licensing system but, it is NOT Apple M silicone native..?!
Cubase Pro is and so is Wavelab…
WTF?! Or am I missing something here..?

It says it's native right in the System Requirements.

Well, when I go to about this app, it says intel

Steinberg hosting apps default to Rosetta. Uncheck the box.

[Atlatnesiti]

So Steinberg is releasing brand new app - “VST Live” and with new licensing system but, it is NOT Apple M silicone native..?!
Cubase Pro is and so is Wavelab…
WTF?! Or am I missing something here..?

It says it's native right in the System Requirements.

Well, when I go to about this app, it says intel

Steinberg hosting apps default to Rosetta. Uncheck the box.

Well, it appears that it is not AS native after all…
https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-live ... i/792268/2

[boojiboy]

That is pathetic Steinberg. Surely all the time it was in development AS systems were available to them

[teilo]

Well, it appears that it is not AS native after all…
https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-live ... i/792268/2

FFS, Steinberg! Can't you even be bothered to get your System Specs correct? This is pathetic! It's actually false advertising.

Thanks for the research, Atlatnesiti. Deactivated that entry for now.

[Meester Smeeeth]

A couple I noticed missing from the list:

Tone Empire these all have M1 Native now:
Model 5000
Firechild
Reelight Pro
Loc-Ness V2

Loc-Ness V2.5 isn’t native. They say it is but it ain’t.

Yeah the au isn't native but the vst3 is, there must be a problem with the latest installer.

@beatskillz Any updates please on when Loc-Ness AU will be Apple Silicon Native as advertised??

[Pinku Eiga]

Uhhyou plugins (created by Japanese developer Ryuaku) have started the migration to ARM architecture in Mac.

https://github.com/ryukau/VSTPlugins/re ... gins0.34.0

Currently, all of those can be downloaded with ARMS builds included in the VST3 container:

- BasicLimiter
- BasicLimiterAutoMake
- CollidingCombSynth
- FDN64Reverb
- L3Reverb
- L4Reverb
- LatticeReverb
- LightPadSynth
- ParallelComb
- PitchShiftDelay

Be aware that they are offering generic VST3 containers for all operating systems, so before adding these, select the option of seeings the contents of the package by right clicking on them.

You will see that together to the Contents folder, they also include two files: desktop.ini and a Plugin.ico. Be sure of deleting these two files before adding them to you DAW. You will probably also need to put these out of quarantine with the command:

sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine /path/to/your.vst

It's important to remove the two files that I mentioned prior to do this, it's an Apple thing: you can't sign or approve content for applications including any files outside the Content folder in the root of an app or plugin folder.

Also note that for most of these plugins, there are presets that you can install.

Go to the web of Ryuakau, click on the name of the plugin. And once opened, open the English manual. Here you will find the link for downloading the presets, you will need to install these manually.

https://ryukau.github.io/VSTPlugins/index.html

Also, be aware that most of these plugins have an experimental nature, and they are intended for extreme sounds. Be sure of putting a Limiter before trying these, most of them include feedback networks.

With CollidingCombSynth, which I absolutely love for creating dissonant orchestral
musical arrangements, it's easy to reach a +300 db signal by tweaking parameters without knowing what you're doing.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Guitar Pro 8 is out and silicon native.

https://www.guitar-pro.com/c/10-guitar-pro-new-features

[Anonym32339]

Guitar Pro 8 and not Guitar Rig....

[nanostream]

Uhhyou plugins (created by Japanese developer Ryuaku) have started the migration to ARM architecture in Mac.

https://ryukau.github.io/VSTPlugins/index.html

These look really interesting, never heard of them. Thanks for posting them and also how to get them up and running.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Guitar Pro 8 and not Guitar Rig....

Typo corrected.

[Pinku Eiga]

Continuing with the Uhhyou plugins, I see that in addition to the ones listed in the Github link that I posted, FDNCymbal, SyncSawSynth, TrapezoidSynth, WaveCymbal, MiniCliffEQ and SevenDelay also have ARM universal builds.

As with the last ones, you will need to do the trick or deleting the two extra files included in the root folder of the VST3 container.

Playing with these last night, TrapezoidSynth is one of the wildest takes on phase distortion and a love letter to the Casio legacy.

In my opinion, this and CollidingCombSynth are essential.

[sQeetz]

Softube's new Wasted Space is native