Tal J-8
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- KVRian
- 1192 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
calm down sissies I am only playin around 
- KVRian
- 732 posts since 9 Apr, 2005 from Japan
I recommend watching this. Especially the first few minutes (but the whole video is great).Erik_Lucas wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:52 am Statements like "analog sounds better" can't be confirmed. However, statements like "analog signals are continuous" or "digital signals are comprised of discontinuous time variables" are statements that can be confirmed.
Stormchild
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- KVRAF
- 2719 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
Hmm, I find them a bit misleading though. A decent audio DAC has a) output filtering b) precision below the noise floor, so the quantisation in both time and voltage are not really a significant problem with digital signals. The major problems come with processing in the digital domain.Erik_Lucas wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:52 am Statements like "analog sounds better" can't be confirmed. However, statements like "analog signals are continuous" or "digital signals are comprised of discontinuous time variables" are statements that can be confirmed.
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- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Please just stop, then. This is an audio tech forum, not a flexing ground to act tough and pick 'fake' fights.
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- KVRian
- 1192 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Audio tech forum? Did you just join? Dont play yourself, KVR is a cesspool of bad takes and hissy fits LMAOmholloway wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:38 pmPlease just stop, then. This is an audio tech forum, not a flexing ground to act tough and pick 'fake' fights.
- KVRian
- 744 posts since 15 May, 2003 from R'lyeh
Yep, because of posters just like yourself actually.vertibration wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:52 pm Audio tech forum? Did you just join? Dont play yourself, KVR is a cesspool of bad takes and hissy fits LMAO
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12442 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Same here. I thought it improved a build or two back, a few people complained, and it got a little worse again in this latest build. But in keeping with the maxims "you can't please all the people all the time" and "you can't always get what you want", I'm fine if Patrick leaves it as-is. I'd rather have him working on adding Polymod in Clap than trying to please every forum member regarding the GUI.Vortifex wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:14 am Just trying the new update and I prefer the previous version that was slightly darker. It's not a massive difference but the subtle change to contrast feels a bit off.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
Please tell Patrick.. seems myself and the only one other has told him this.Vortifex wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:14 am Just trying the new update and I prefer the previous version that was slightly darker. It's not a massive difference but the subtle change to contrast feels a bit off.
But yeah as I said to him, I don't much use Basslines and U No LX (they also removed the hilites) as I call them, but I use J-8 it often, and this new GUI always makes me feel like something is 'off'.
But if anyone indeed preferred the older GUI, please write him and tell him.
rsp
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sound sculptist
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
As you know I currently don't care about Clap..Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:51 amSame here. I thought it improved a build or two back, a few people complained, and it got a little worse again in this latest build. But in keeping with the maxims "you can't please all the people all the time" and "you can't always get what you want", I'm fine if Patrick leaves it as-is. I'd rather have him working on adding Polymod in Clap than trying to please every forum member regarding the GUI.Vortifex wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:14 am Just trying the new update and I prefer the previous version that was slightly darker. It's not a massive difference but the subtle change to contrast feels a bit off.
But I think the best solution is two options...
as it was in 1.5.5 (darker with hilites), or as it was in 1.6.1, brighter and no hilites.
And just make it an optional choice for the user.
rsp
sound sculptist
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12442 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I really don't feel strongly about it and I don't want to contribute to a bunch of people nitpicking to a developer about what the perfect shade of dark is. It's just silly. I liked the other one better. Someone else may prefer this variation. That's ok. I'm encouraging us all to just be ok with not everything being 100% to our liking. Especially non-functional stuff like this. If he tweaks it for my taste, then someone else may complain it's too dark, and vice versa. If Patrick was specifically soliciting GUI feedback or this were a beta, that might be another thing, but this is an established enough product that I don't think UI nitpicks are actually worth the effort, even if it's a small, easy change. Because someone else will ultimately prefer it some other way and then where do the changes stop?zvenx wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:15 pmAs you know I currently don't care about Clap..Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:51 amSame here. I thought it improved a build or two back, a few people complained, and it got a little worse again in this latest build. But in keeping with the maxims "you can't please all the people all the time" and "you can't always get what you want", I'm fine if Patrick leaves it as-is. I'd rather have him working on adding Polymod in Clap than trying to please every forum member regarding the GUI.Vortifex wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:14 am Just trying the new update and I prefer the previous version that was slightly darker. It's not a massive difference but the subtle change to contrast feels a bit off.
But I think the best solution is two options...
as it was in 1.5.5 (darker with hilites), or as it was in 1.6.1, brighter and no hilites.
And just make it an optional choice for the user.
rsp
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
And if this was day 2 of release I would agree with you...but the gui has been 'established' for well over a year.. (this thread is over 18 months old).. and then he changed it..
But indeed your call to what you contribute to or not...
My issue is more the lack of 'hilites' now not so much the darkness of the overall gui.
You would prefer him to work on clap which would have zero use for me, I prefer him to work to make the gui change optional which you don't feel necessary for him to do..
Different strokes for different folks.
rsp
But indeed your call to what you contribute to or not...
My issue is more the lack of 'hilites' now not so much the darkness of the overall gui.
You would prefer him to work on clap which would have zero use for me, I prefer him to work to make the gui change optional which you don't feel necessary for him to do..
Different strokes for different folks.
rsp
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- KVRian
- 929 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida
I'm super late to this party, but I'm just now getting into the J-8. I read the manual but AFAIK there's nothing about the voice modes (N/RR/J8) or the arp modes (ARP J8/ARP J8 MOD/ARP MOD).
I believe round robin just cycles through the voice index over and over again. Simple enough. But the other two modes are unclear to me...though J8 appears to be commonly used for arps for some reason.
I sent Patrick an email asking him about the arp modes and he explained it all...but I accidentally deleted his email like an idiot.
I believe round robin just cycles through the voice index over and over again. Simple enough. But the other two modes are unclear to me...though J8 appears to be commonly used for arps for some reason.
I sent Patrick an email asking him about the arp modes and he explained it all...but I accidentally deleted his email like an idiot.
- KVRAF
- 3228 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany
Tipp: If the SC window is open the actual used voices are highlighted. So, RR is round-robin. I don't see a big difference between (N)ormal and (J)upiter mode.
ARP J8 is the original Jupiter-8 ARP behaviour. The other are older modes just for compatibility I guess.
ARP J8 is the original Jupiter-8 ARP behaviour. The other are older modes just for compatibility I guess.
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
there's a bit of discussion about Jupier 8 arpeggiator some pages ago on this topic, but briefly, Jupiter-8 keeps the note played order on arp.Sound Author wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:02 am I'm super late to this party, but I'm just now getting into the J-8. I read the manual but AFAIK there's nothing about the voice modes (N/RR/J8) or the arp modes (ARP J8/ARP J8 MOD/ARP MOD).
I believe round robin just cycles through the voice index over and over again. Simple enough. But the other two modes are unclear to me...though J8 appears to be commonly used for arps for some reason.
I sent Patrick an email asking him about the arp modes and he explained it all...but I accidentally deleted his email like an idiot.![]()
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