Addictive Keys

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genesis1
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2 posts since 28 Sep, 2022

Post Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:21 pm

I've been trying out several virtual pianos. I like AK but there seems no difference in tone from playing harder to softer. All that happens is the volume obviously changes. Is this all AK can do or am I missing a setting?

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cdbaksu
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60 posts since 25 Jan, 2021

Post Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:16 am

For acoustic pianos I found sample based libraries to be somewhat lacking. Even those "huge" 21 dynamic layered ones (like Hammersmith). A decent shout is NI's Noire, but if you're really serious about pianos do yourself a favour and get Pianoteq. There's nothing like it in terms of playability, customisability, and sound.

genesis1
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2 posts since 28 Sep, 2022

Post Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:55 pm

What about keyscape?

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cdbaksu
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60 posts since 25 Jan, 2021

Post Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:03 am

Keyscape lacks a lot of detail like string resonance and una-corda, and is also a sample based library.

Oh and I forgot to mention Pianoteq has a trial version you can try out.

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KVRAF
10102 posts since 12 May, 2008

Post Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:57 pm

Addictive Keys have some nice effected pianos, but is not great for dynamics. I love Keyscape personally, even if there isn't some of the more fancy physical modeling stuff you might get in some products. It sounds great.

mixyguy2
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564 posts since 2 Mar, 2018

Post Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:15 pm

cdbaksu wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:16 am Pianoteq. There's nothing like it in terms of playability, customisability, and sound.
Two out of three isn't bad. :)

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tonedef71
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1496 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA

Post Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:45 am

Is Waves' Grand Rhapsody Piano (with the HD sample set) suitable for the task?
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Tj Shredder
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7985 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:17 pm

Piano V from Arturia seems to be based on an older version of Pianoteq and is modeled as well. Cheaper, but not as flexible as Pianoteq…

soulata
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2856 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia

Post Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:39 pm

AK CP80 sounds fine to me. I usually use AK to quickly record ideas. When it comes to mix I exchange it for something else or augment it with other sounds.

Btw, Teletone audio has an amazing piano library. Or two.

k

dickiefunk
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2751 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from cornwall

Post Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:08 am

I have used Addictive Keys and totally agree the dynamic range is really lacking. I also have Pianoteq 7 Pro and whilst I fully agree about its playability and customisation options. However, I still find Pianoteq sounds quite synthetic.

My goto pianos are NI Noire and Embertones Walker Concert D. However, there is a very annoying bug when using tempo track in Cubase which was reported to NI over a year ago but nothing has been done to fix this!

I’m looking to upgrade Noire and the new Porduction Voices 300 Grand sounds stunning in the demos.

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KVRAF
6918 posts since 28 Apr, 2013

Post Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:04 am

soulata wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:39 pm AK CP80 sounds fine to me. I usually use AK to quickly record ideas. When it comes to mix I exchange it for something else or augment it with other sounds.

Btw, Teletone audio has an amazing piano library. Or two.

k
I thought it was a CP70, which sounds different than a CP80 imo and is its actual appeal for me. Even though I sold AK previously, I found it was the one sound they nailed the best and was a good addition to the other piano plugins I have. Picked it up again when the market flooded with $5 for all NFR licenses.
And even the real CP70 wasn't known for the best dynamic range anyway.

Softer dynamic ranges do indeed suck on all of their keyboards. But for that little of money, there's no reason not to have them in the plug-in arsenal.

Pianoteq is still my first choice to go to and gets played daily and recorded regularly though.

soulata
KVRAF
2856 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia

Post Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:52 pm

Yeah, it's either cp80 or 70 :)

It sounds good.

I think I got most of their AK libraries for free or almost free so I'm not complaining.

zzz00m
KVRAF
3499 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:39 am

Agree on NI Noire.

Here's another one worth taking a look at. At least the price is right!

The free Soundpaint player comes with a free sampled 1928 Vintage Grand Steinway.
https://soundpaint.com/products/1928-vi ... d-steinway

Infinite Velocity Grand Piano
32 Programs / 4 Parts
4.892 Real-Time Samples™ / 8.05GB
Soundpaint™ Engine (Free)
VST, AU and Standalone

They developed the Soundpaint engine in an attempt to overcome the limitations of sampled velocity layers. How well did they do?
"We feel the 1928 is the perfect demonstration of the Soundpaint Engine Technology and lets you feel the power of real-time rendering and velocity morphed samples."
https://youtu.be/1w2l30QD5iM
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