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stephenpaulharper
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771 posts since 4 Jul, 2005 from Atlanta

Post Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:23 pm

Soliciting feedback before mastering this. I've shared it with a few people,who have said it had a proggy vibe. That's not what I was going for, but I do listen to music like that. Mostly I was testing out some new libraries and instruments (Pearl malletSTATION) amongst other stuff. Critique away. I'm thick-skinned and aware of my limitations. https://soundcloud.com/user-184873854/i ... carmichael

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AntonioB
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:46 am

Proggy like in "prog rock"? It is difficult to answer because there is so much different eras of prog rock from early 70s Yes to 80s King Crimson. I dont think I hear prog rock. It seems to have indie vibe to me.

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stephenpaulharper
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:22 am

AntonioB wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:46 am Proggy like in "prog rock"? It is difficult to answer because there is so much different eras of prog rock from early 70s Yes to 80s King Crimson. I dont think I hear prog rock. It seems to have indie vibe to me.

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Yes, prog rock. I only shared this with a handful of folks, and three of them said it reminded them of Yes, which I can't imagine, nor was it in any way my intention. The vocals maybe? Thanks so very much for listening.
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AntonioB
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:52 am

stephenpaulharper wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:22 am
AntonioB wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:46 am Proggy like in "prog rock"? It is difficult to answer because there is so much different eras of prog rock from early 70s Yes to 80s King Crimson. I dont think I hear prog rock. It seems to have indie vibe to me.

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th
Yes, prog rock. I only shared this with a handful of folks, and three of them said it reminded them of Yes, which I can't imagine, nor was it in any way my intention. The vocals maybe? Thanks so very much for listening.
Upon closer listen.. it could be. I think anything more intricate and complicated melodically and rhythmically could be that. Its a track that has lots of changes and sections.. so does go into the prog realm so to speak.

stephenpaulharper
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:34 am

AntonioB wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:52 am
stephenpaulharper wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:22 am
AntonioB wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:46 am Proggy like in "prog rock"? It is difficult to answer because there is so much different eras of prog rock from early 70s Yes to 80s King Crimson. I dont think I hear prog rock. It seems to have indie vibe to me.

good luck
th
Yes, prog rock. I only shared this with a handful of folks, and three of them said it reminded them of Yes, which I can't imagine, nor was it in any way my intention. The vocals maybe? Thanks so very much for listening.
Upon closer listen.. it could be. I think anything more intricate and complicated melodically and rhythmically could be that. Its a track that has lots of changes and sections.. so does go into the prog realm so to speak.
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Yes, that's probably it. It does have a 9/8 section, and there are some modulations that aren't so typical. Most of what I come up with comes from jamming on the drums. And I did listen to a lot of Phil Collins and Bill Bruford back in the day. I really appreciate you listening and giving feedback.
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DocAtlas
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:54 am

It certainly is Prog, but which sub-genre, I'm not sure. The horns give a somewhat jazzy influence, which is common in some sub-genres of Prog. Prog Archives has a lot of sub-genres listed, you might check out some of them. https://www.progarchives.com/
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stephenpaulharper
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:16 am

DocAtlas wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:54 am It certainly is Prog, but which sub-genre, I'm not sure. The horns give a somewhat jazzy influence, which is common in some sub-genres of Prog. Prog Archives has a lot of sub-genres listed, you might check out some of them. https://www.progarchives.com/
Thanks very much for listening. Yes, I'd just gotten a new horn library and was keen to try it out. But yeah, there are prog bands with horns. Eskseption comes to mind, and then a lot of Zeuhl stuff, but this certainly isn't Zeuhl. I guess my point was, I didn't intend to do something proggy, but I guess I can't escape the influences of my youth. Thanks again, and yes, I'm vey familiar with prog archives.
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magog
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:04 pm

I like prog! Is there a link?

stephenpaulharper
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:27 pm

magog wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:04 pm I like prog! Is there a link?
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ttps://www.progarchives.com/
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magog
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:53 pm

Oh I know about progarchives - I was asking about the piece you were working on.

stephenpaulharper
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:30 pm

magog wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:53 pm Oh I know about progarchives - I was asking about the piece you were working on.
Oh, that's the tune I posted here at the top. Some say it's proggy.
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enroe
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2096 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:21 pm

Does it really matter to you if it's prog rock or not?

In any case, I'm surprised: You rarely hear such "progressive" music here
on KVR. The wind instruments give the track a rather strange character,
the vocals are similar to those on "Yes" in the 70's. The most interesting
thing about it is this completely new compilation, which is second to
none - and is still very felicitous. Excellent! :tu:
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stephenpaulharper
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Post Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:47 pm

enroe wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:21 pm Does it really matter to you if it's prog rock or not?

In any case, I'm surprised: You rarely hear such "progressive" music here
on KVR. The wind instruments give the track a rather strange character,
the vocals are similar to those on "Yes" in the 70's. The most interesting
thing about it is this completely new compilation, which is second to
none - and is still very felicitous. Excellent! :tu:
Thanks very much for listening. No, it doesn't matter if it's prog rock or not. I certainly didn't intend for it be in that genre though. But the few people I shared it with beforehand all said it reminded them of Yes and Genesis. Admittedly, those are bands I grew up with, but this tune was just something I came up with, with no specific genre in mind. My tastes run from de Machaut to Public Enemy, so I have a pretty diverse palette to choose from. I very much appreciate you listening and offering feedback.
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Frantz
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5929 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:33 am

I think the vocals are getting lost in the mix and the drums are too loud. I think the mix should be revisited.

The vocal style of repeatedly holding notes is a bit strange and takes some getting used to. On the plus side, this sounds quite original to me.

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AntonioB
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Post Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:43 am

Frantz wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:33 am The vocal style of repeatedly holding notes is a bit strange and takes some getting used to.
You may not be familiar with old Yes records. It was a defining element of the genre at the time. Check out Soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXnj64o198A

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