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stash98 · Post by **stash98** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:31 pm

I got excited when I saw the free NCAR summing mixer from Analogue obsession, but it will only load in Ableton Rosetta mode on my Mac, which is not optimal.

Personally I like to use summing to make a track sound dirtier and a bit more distorted, so clean and Nevey or SSL like is ok but not always my thing. Typically use hardware for this, but my Boss Bx800 mixer has crapped out and I'd like something to send busses into on some tracks I have finished.

I see UAD has a Neve one, but I don't want to mess with UAD or Waves. Ideally something like NCAR would be really cool. Is there anything else out there? I have also been digging through max4live plugins (there are some awesome IR emulations for channels), but have not found anything yet.

In the past I have just put console strips on each channel but I love the sound of hardware summing, driving different busses harder and getting them all to mesh together. Anything I should check out?

j wazza · Post by **j wazza** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:39 pm

i think most of these plugins dont actually do summing, just a bit of crosstalk, like slate, sonimus

the mixer in softube modular and vcv racl do summing, but dont get it just for that.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:44 pm

Studio one Mix Engine FX

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:56 pm

stash98 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:31 pm I love the sound of hardware summing,

can you get your Boss Bx800 fixed? sounds like that's what would be most satisfying.

stash98 · Post by **stash98** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:44 pm

dayjob wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:56 pm
stash98 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:31 pm I love the sound of hardware summing,
can you get your Boss Bx800 fixed? sounds like that's what would be most satisfying.

Yeah maybe I can. Some of these old mixers just are one Pc board and so it's not cost effective to fix them.

Steve Bolivar · Post by **Steve Bolivar** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:53 am

It's not a summing mixer but Klanghelm SDRR is cheap, sounds great and runs on M1. It's great for dirtying up sounds like your BOSS.
https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/SDRR.html
https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech ... drr-590586
Updates for all Klanghelm plugins, added native Apple Silicon (M1) support
Tuesday, November 8, 2021
All Klanghelm plugins are now running natively on Apple Silicon (M1).

stash98 · Post by **stash98** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:49 am

Steve Bolivar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:53 am It's not a summing mixer but Klanghelm SDRR is cheap, sounds great and runs on M1. It's great for dirtying up sounds like your BOSS.
https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/SDRR.html
https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech ... drr-590586
Updates for all Klanghelm plugins, added native Apple Silicon (M1) support
Tuesday, November 8, 2021
All Klanghelm plugins are now running natively on Apple Silicon (M1).

Awesome, this plugin sounds fantastic. I love Klanghelm's stuff but didn't know about this one.

El°HYM · Post by **El°HYM** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:31 am

Maybe also worth mentioning are the Sonimus ones. Not sure if Airwindows also did a Mackify summing thing, which would be pretty cool actually.

simon.a.billington · Post by **simon.a.billington** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:35 am

The Lindell 50 and 80 Channel both come with a buss summing plugin too, so that's another choice.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:29 pm

I don't think they're doing any summing, I believe they are just modeling the line amplifier in the buss.

Good plugin summing mixers that work with M1?