KVR Audio

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:40 am

Heya,
I have been maniacally(as usual) devving this Wasp XT clone.
U can try it now, the dev archive is linked.
There will be bugs I guess,
kinda excited to release this now, with possible misbehaviors.
It was this proprietary plug from Synapse and ImageLine,
WaspXT==>

WaspXT.png

-then Grymmjack, Rick Christy made a sublime skin edit.
This one--

WaspXT Venom.png

I got the old graphics, after vaguely remembering that this was tasty,
and with Rick's permission set about rebuilding my W^sp,
it looks like this now:

W^sp screen.png

I haven't written any presets, so if u like it u can write a bank for us.
Here's the current project, including x86 &x64 VST2.dll and x86 & x64 VST3
Let me know if anything is broken,
hope u like it
I think it has a real Wasp buzz, I tried to make it sound hard, while keeping usability in check
Cheers, Phonics
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XeWCQQ ... share_link

<edit: this is beta atm, still ironing out the kinks. This W^sp has similar ui layout, but is not component modelled after WaspXT, it sounds different>

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:06 pm

I think it needs slide on the mono osc 3,
and switches for the velocity levels.
maybe volume sliders on osc 1&2 also

-any requests for little things?

BONES wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:37 pm

U might want this Bones, it's open source
-if you'd like to bend it

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:31 pm

Very f**king cool! Does Rich know you've done it? It might be polite to at least tell him. I'm sure he'll be flattered.

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:47 pm

hah!
ta mate

yah, I put a message at IL and Synapse forums
https://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewtop ... =2&t=13311
https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=294082

-all the sections need OI switches
and the distortion is usually sounding bad(will try make it better)

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:52 pm

I don't see any evidence that Richard gave you permission to release a VSTi and VST 3 clone of his Wasp synth.

nix wrote:I have released a beta now of this,hope that's ok Rich

You didn't wait for him to respond and in fact he hasn't responded to that thread since you started it in Dec 2022. Take the files down until you get permission, if you get permission.

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:04 pm

afaik, there is no copyright breach

Rich is not contactable to me,
I think he doesn't want me to interact with him a little

pawder · Post by **pawder** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:03 pm

Teksonik wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:52 pm Take the files down until you get permission, if you get permission.

you seem to be a very unpleasant human being.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:04 am

nix808 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:04 pm afaik, there is no copyright breach

Rich is not contactable to me,
I think he doesn't want me to interact with him a little

The key words "as far as you know". Where did you get your law degree?

Richard has not given you his blessing so the proper thing to do would be wait until (if) he does.

Here is what you posted on 15 December 2022:

nix wrote:Heya Synapse, Could I legitimately produce a VSTi version of Wasp using this interface

The fact that Richard never responded to your post in all that time probably tells you all you need to know.

Do the right thing.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:08 am

pawder wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:03 pm
Teksonik wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:52 pm Take the files down until you get permission, if you get permission.
you seem to be a very unpleasant human being.

Why, because I'm defending the intellectual property of someone I consider a friend?

Because I'm telling the OP to do the right thing and wait until (if) he gets permission to duplicate the architecture of a proprietary synth because it is quite possibly a violation of copyright law?

If you think that makes me "unpleasant" then you are simply an example of everything that is wrong with KVR these days.

dubizer · Post by **dubizer** » Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:22 pm

I like this quite a bit, but the oscillator volumes seem to be tied to the LFO AMT's.

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:51 pm

oh so nice u like it !

-it's beta is in re-hash mode,
the osc vols are now knobs==>

W^sp changes.png

there are all sorts of gain-staging issues in the last up,
making osc 3 mono was a bit difficult, and makes the voice system sum
this has been fixed now

prolly I'll change the release in 20 hours or so, maybe less

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:22 am

Teksonik wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:52 pm I don't see any evidence that Richard gave you permission to release a VSTi and VST 3 clone of his Wasp synth.

In much the same way that Rich didn't get permission from Moog or Oberheim to clone their synths. At most he might look for permission to use the "Wasp" name but, unless he's stolen Rich's code, I can't see there being any problem here.

In fact, I'm pretty sure Rich sold/gave the VSTi rights to Imageline anyway, so if he needs to be worried about anyone, it's them.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:44 am

BONES wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:22 am
Teksonik wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:52 pm I don't see any evidence that Richard gave you permission to release a VSTi and VST 3 clone of his Wasp synth.
In much the same way that Rich didn't get permission from Moog or Oberheim to clone their synths. At most he might look for permission to use the "Wasp" name but, unless he's stolen Rich's code, I can't see there being any problem here.

In fact, I'm pretty sure Rich sold/gave the VSTi rights to Imageline anyway, so if he needs to be worried about anyone, it's them.

IF this vsti is released with original code from Richard without his permission , then it's violating copyright law .
No matter how you look at it.
I'm with teksonik on this one .

swatwork · Post by **swatwork** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:11 am

gentleclockdivider wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:44 am IF this vsti is released with original code from Richard without his permission

Nix808's recreation is clearly made in Flowstone so it's pretty obvious that it doesn't.

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:28 am

I didn't de-compile,alter or include any of the WaspXT coding
Rich has declared the copyright to Image-Line who said I cannot use the name,graphics or binary

The name will be WΛsp -if that's no problems

float and sting:- new W^sp VSTi