Opinions on string libraries for Kontakt (Cremona Quartet or 8Dio?)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2505 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand
Hi,
Just while everything's on sale, I'm thinking about getting a decent sampled string library (the best I currently have is probably Session Strings, as I have Komplete).
I don't know if I necessarily need a whole orchestra, I'm more thinking a string quartet with solo instruments might be more what I'm after.
So basically it comes down to either Cremona Quartet or something from 8Dio. 8Dio stuff is on a really good sale right now, but I don't seem to ever see it mentioned as great string libraries.
What's your opinion?
Just while everything's on sale, I'm thinking about getting a decent sampled string library (the best I currently have is probably Session Strings, as I have Komplete).
I don't know if I necessarily need a whole orchestra, I'm more thinking a string quartet with solo instruments might be more what I'm after.
So basically it comes down to either Cremona Quartet or something from 8Dio. 8Dio stuff is on a really good sale right now, but I don't seem to ever see it mentioned as great string libraries.
What's your opinion?
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- KVRian
- 808 posts since 2 Mar, 2018
I have 8Dio's Anthology Strings, has ensembles and solos and it's freaking excellent IMO (get on sale of course). I have heard good things about 8Dio Century Strings as well FWIW but I don't think it has solos (not sure). More info: https://8dio.com/collections/strings
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- KVRAF
- 5449 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Neither NI nor 8dio are great options imo. The former never seem to get the sound right - the Cremona Quartet isn't terrible but they did squeeze a lot of the life and body out of those instruments to make them playable by phase-aligning everything. 8dio have a deserved poor reputation from terrible QC.
The good news is there are many other better options out there. Spifire have Solo Strings which is quite good, Cinesamples have Cinestrings Solo (on offer at the moment - add to cart to see the 60% discount). I don't own Embertone's range, but they are extremely well regarded, as are Cinematic Solo Strings. Then there are others that don't use Kontakt - VIR Harmonic's incredible Bohemian Range (though these are more suited to lead than quartet work); East West (though not very good for solos), VSL (out of touch there).
Were I starting from scratch, I'd bite the bullet and get a lifetime membership to Cinesamples Musio (their own player) at $499. It is, admittedly a bit of a leap of faith as the player still doesn't do keyswiching or mic-mixing, though this is coming by end of August we're told. Already it's a fantastic and broad range, including the solo strings.
The good news is there are many other better options out there. Spifire have Solo Strings which is quite good, Cinesamples have Cinestrings Solo (on offer at the moment - add to cart to see the 60% discount). I don't own Embertone's range, but they are extremely well regarded, as are Cinematic Solo Strings. Then there are others that don't use Kontakt - VIR Harmonic's incredible Bohemian Range (though these are more suited to lead than quartet work); East West (though not very good for solos), VSL (out of touch there).
Were I starting from scratch, I'd bite the bullet and get a lifetime membership to Cinesamples Musio (their own player) at $499. It is, admittedly a bit of a leap of faith as the player still doesn't do keyswiching or mic-mixing, though this is coming by end of August we're told. Already it's a fantastic and broad range, including the solo strings.
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- KVRAF
- 2281 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from Doritos Land where no goblins are allowed
I absolutely love 8Dio libraries. Century Strings are very often my first choice.
Imho they seem to have a problem with woods (oboe... ouch ! saxophones... meh...) : none seems 100% convincing to me, better option is available somewhere else everytime... For choirs, they’re in the top 5 range (Skyrim could be a proof).
Though, I also would consider some other brands first for realistic complex strings...
Audiobro are strings legends. If you ever find anybody complaining about these libraries, they’re probably kidding. They’re on sale 95% of the year.
Spitfire, -I second that, are more than highly regarded, and for a reason. Their string libraries are superb. My main string library is Spitfire Studio Strings Pro. They do sales randomly, quite often. Adding what you want to buy on your wishlist grants you extra discounts sometimes.
Maybe you could watch what they’re offering, as they’re generally considered as the perfect offer for strings composing, and tell us if something is still missing for you ?
Imho they seem to have a problem with woods (oboe... ouch ! saxophones... meh...) : none seems 100% convincing to me, better option is available somewhere else everytime... For choirs, they’re in the top 5 range (Skyrim could be a proof).
Though, I also would consider some other brands first for realistic complex strings...
Audiobro are strings legends. If you ever find anybody complaining about these libraries, they’re probably kidding. They’re on sale 95% of the year.
Spitfire, -I second that, are more than highly regarded, and for a reason. Their string libraries are superb. My main string library is Spitfire Studio Strings Pro. They do sales randomly, quite often. Adding what you want to buy on your wishlist grants you extra discounts sometimes.
Maybe you could watch what they’re offering, as they’re generally considered as the perfect offer for strings composing, and tell us if something is still missing for you ?
Please don’t read the above post. It’s a stupid one. Simply pass.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2505 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand
Cheers for the help. I actually bit the bullet on 8Dio Intimate Studio Strings for $75 right before the sale ended, but I haven't even had time to install it yet.
But yes. I'll probably still want to improve my string options further in the future so I'll take the above info on board.
But yes. I'll probably still want to improve my string options further in the future so I'll take the above info on board.
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- KVRian
- 808 posts since 2 Mar, 2018
Agreed all around. I bought their "Fire Sax" and "Studio Sax" on a big sale awhile back. So disappointing never used.
g/l OP. Curious to hear how it goes!
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- KVRAF
- 5449 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Can't believe I forgot Audiobro! Still use LASS to this day, and it has some unique tricks up its sleeve. For solo strings, while I reach for Bohemian if a part is front and centre, I tend to reach for LASS First Chair if it needs to blend in. It's a well-named library, solo strings yes, but designed to lead a section.
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- Banned
- 580 posts since 27 May, 2023
My favourite strings are the Bohemian ones as mentioned, but it really depends on the music you make. XSample libraries are good for modern teachniques that other libraries dont seem to tackle. I have heard good results from their Contemporary Solo Strings.
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 28 Feb, 2023
they sound great, but i've found that my personal favorite orchestral vsts come from spitfire. theyre not crazy expensive and sometimes they get a little overly texture-y, but they really create atmosphere
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- Banned
- 178 posts since 31 May, 2023
I have the original VSL "Special Edition Vo.l 1" library plus the Vienna Instruments Pro 2 player. i've had the collection (which includes both ensemble and solo strings, woodwinds, brass and percussion) since 2011. I honestly haven't used it that much over the years. The instruments are a little too clinical sounding for my taste. Plus, the samples are bone dry. So you really need a good convolution reverb to bring them to life.
My biggest gripe is probably with the Vienna Instruments Pro 2 software. It's incredibly powerful and allows you to create very realistic scores if you know what you are doing. However, I find the Vienna Instruments Pro 2 player overly complicated. So I'm considering getting one or two of the Spitfire Audio orchestral libraries.
My biggest gripe is probably with the Vienna Instruments Pro 2 software. It's incredibly powerful and allows you to create very realistic scores if you know what you are doing. However, I find the Vienna Instruments Pro 2 player overly complicated. So I'm considering getting one or two of the Spitfire Audio orchestral libraries.
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- KVRer
- 10 posts since 6 Jun, 2023
I do quite love 8dio's massive orchestra VSTs, which can give a very large sound.
If you're looking for more detailed expressions I think Spitfire is the way to go!
If you're looking for more detailed expressions I think Spitfire is the way to go!