If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?

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If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?

Ableton Live
188
16%
ACID Pro
1
0%
Bitwig Studio
172
15%
Cakewalk
20
2%
Cubase
167
14%
Digital Performer
14
1%
FL Studio
57
5%
Logic Pro
95
8%
Mixbus
1
0%
Mixcraft
10
1%
MuLab
18
2%
Pro Tools
13
1%
Reaper
203
17%
Reason
30
3%
Samplitude
4
0%
Studio One
120
10%
Tracktion
16
1%
Other...
49
4%
 
Total votes: 1178

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BONES wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:15 am Believe it or not, I can remember scenes on the news of hundreds of people waiting for the doors of a big box store to open at midnight so they could be first to get their hands on Windows 98. Of course, being PC people, there was no orderly line, it was a riotous mob, intent on looting the Windows shelves so they could be first. Nerds can be scary when you get 'em riled. But it was the store who had drummed up the excitement, not Microsoft.
What I love about this is I never have associated anything, not one part of my personality, with the computer I own. Sometimes with people every accusation is a confession.

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Resonant- Serpent wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:39 am Changed vote from Cubase to Ableton Live.
Did the same from Logic to Live
MacMini M2 Pro MacOS Tahoe ……… Reason 14

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How much is Ableton paying you guys and how do I get in on the action?
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? :(

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machinesworking wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:18 am
BONES wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:15 am Believe it or not, I can remember scenes on the news of hundreds of people waiting for the doors of a big box store to open at midnight so they could be first to get their hands on Windows 98. Of course, being PC people, there was no orderly line, it was a riotous mob, intent on looting the Windows shelves so they could be first. Nerds can be scary when you get 'em riled. But it was the store who had drummed up the excitement, not Microsoft.
What I love about this is I never have associated anything, not one part of my personality, with the computer I own. Sometimes with people every accusation is a confession.
Corporation have invested an inordinate amount of resources to convince people to define themselves by the products they buy. It is not easy for people to escape the manipulation of that massive effort.

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syntonica wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:02 am How much is Ableton paying you guys and how do I get in on the action?
Even though neither Live or Bitwig can do what MuLab can do with the Clip Launcher, Ableton is a fantastic DAW.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:36 am
syntonica wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:02 am How much is Ableton paying you guys and how do I get in on the action?
Even though neither Live or Bitwig can do what MuLab can do with the Clip Launcher, Ableton is a fantastic DAW.
MuLab implemented some interesting ideas in their Clip Launcher

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:42 am
liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:36 am
syntonica wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:02 am How much is Ableton paying you guys and how do I get in on the action?
Even though neither Live or Bitwig can do what MuLab can do with the Clip Launcher, Ableton is a fantastic DAW.
MuLab implemented some interesting ideas in their Clip Launcher
one example is the problem that both Bitwig and Live have regarding clips recording in the arrangement with no options as it has been discussed several times, plus it can have different time base clips/arrangement IIRC etc.
I’m still exploring the latest version of MuLab and it’s as deep, powerful and vast as you can imagine and…. “one single” incredibly gifted developer!
And… CLAP ready.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:50 am one example is the problem that both Bitwig and Live have regarding clips recording in the arrangement with no options as it has been discussed several times, plus it can have different time base clips/arrangement IIRC etc.
I’m still exploring the latest version of MuLab and it’s as deep, powerful and vast as you can imagine and…. “one single” incredibly gifted developer!
And… CLAP ready.
Does MuLab have polyphonic modulators? So that say the CLAP version of ACE can have additional per voice envelopes?

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:14 am
liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:50 am one example is the problem that both Bitwig and Live have regarding clips recording in the arrangement with no options as it has been discussed several times, plus it can have different time base clips/arrangement IIRC etc.
I’m still exploring the latest version of MuLab and it’s as deep, powerful and vast as you can imagine and…. “one single” incredibly gifted developer!
And… CLAP ready.
Does MuLab have polyphonic modulators? So that say the CLAP version of ACE can have additional per voice envelopes?
I haven’t check that yet, CLAP was just introduced very recently. I know that is paramount to you. You can ask Jo and have an immediate response.
There are tools in MuLab that may actually tease your musical interest even though I know Bitwig IS you DAW par excellence :D
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:29 am
pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:14 am
liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:50 am one example is the problem that both Bitwig and Live have regarding clips recording in the arrangement with no options as it has been discussed several times, plus it can have different time base clips/arrangement IIRC etc.
I’m still exploring the latest version of MuLab and it’s as deep, powerful and vast as you can imagine and…. “one single” incredibly gifted developer!
And… CLAP ready.
Does MuLab have polyphonic modulators? So that say the CLAP version of ACE can have additional per voice envelopes?
I haven’t check that yet, CLAP was just introduced very recently. I know that is paramount to you. You can ask Jo and have an immediate response.
There are tools in MuLab that may actually tease your musical interest even though I know Bitwig IS you DAW par excellence :D
Have you tried to play with the DC Offset and wavetables lfo at audio rate? In a few clicks, you can create your own wavetable synthesiser, with any level of complexity like 8 wavetables moving at the sametimes but differently and polyphonically, different types of filters, envelopes.... it is like the grid without the grid, really awesome.

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Jac459 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:59 am
liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:29 am
pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:14 am
liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:50 am one example is the problem that both Bitwig and Live have regarding clips recording in the arrangement with no options as it has been discussed several times, plus it can have different time base clips/arrangement IIRC etc.
I’m still exploring the latest version of MuLab and it’s as deep, powerful and vast as you can imagine and…. “one single” incredibly gifted developer!
And… CLAP ready.
Does MuLab have polyphonic modulators? So that say the CLAP version of ACE can have additional per voice envelopes?
I haven’t check that yet, CLAP was just introduced very recently. I know that is paramount to you. You can ask Jo and have an immediate response.
There are tools in MuLab that may actually tease your musical interest even though I know Bitwig IS you DAW par excellence :D
Have you tried to play with the DC Offset and wavetables lfo at audio rate? In a few clicks, you can create your own wavetable synthesiser, with any level of complexity like 8 wavetables moving at the sametimes but differently and polyphonically, different types of filters, envelopes.... it is like the grid without the grid, really awesome.
I could go absolutely insane with any good synth and end up producing sounds rather than music i.e., an idea, from beginning to end, which is easily derailed into a rabbit hole when I begin to explore the "ENDLESS" (and you know the rabbit hole :hihi: ) ways to modulate an instrument or a combination of tools...

In my 55 years of making music (I started very early in life), Bitwig has been the least productive DAW I ever used.

That's me, but that's the way it is.

Ableton is the only one that's never in the way, and Mulab (I recently started using it again) is where I get to play when I'm having some good time out in Manhattan's coffee shops :phones:

Of course, Reason is now Reason Rack!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:35 am
machinesworking wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:18 am
BONES wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:15 am Believe it or not, I can remember scenes on the news of hundreds of people waiting for the doors of a big box store to open at midnight so they could be first to get their hands on Windows 98. Of course, being PC people, there was no orderly line, it was a riotous mob, intent on looting the Windows shelves so they could be first. Nerds can be scary when you get 'em riled. But it was the store who had drummed up the excitement, not Microsoft.
What I love about this is I never have associated anything, not one part of my personality, with the computer I own. Sometimes with people every accusation is a confession.
Corporation have invested an inordinate amount of resources to convince people to define themselves by the products they buy. It is not easy for people to escape the manipulation of that massive effort.
Sure, but it's always up to us as individuals to overcome this. It's not an impossible task, just recognize the inherent stupidity in generalizations, marketing, provincialism, branding, nationalism etc. etc. There is nothing more stupid to me than being "proud of" or thinking you're smarter for X or Y reason, especially if that reason is something as ridiculous as what brand of thing you own, where you're from, and your culture etc.

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liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:28 am In my 55 years of making music (I started very early in life), Bitwig has been the least productive DAW I ever used.

That's me, but that's the way it is.

Ableton is the only one that's never in the way, and Mulab (I recently started using it again) is where I get to play when I'm having some good time out in Manhattan's coffee shops :phones:

Of course, Reason is now Reason Rack!
I always find this odd. I'm not knocking it, just taking it in. I've jumped around a lot myself, and I can honestly say every DAW I've tried has some really great ideas and features. Mostly it's me, what part of the DAW pisses me off and makes me frustrated, that's what makes my choice. I've used Live for 20 odd years now and I love it and hate it. I love all the parts of it that are ergonomic, and hate the constant bowing to KISS it does with the un-assignable key commands, and in the past sheer amount of mousing you end up doing (though that's a lot better now). I love using Live for smaller projects it feels like nothing is quicker, I hate using is for larger ones, it feels like nothing is slower.

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I don't really care, I am infinitely more interested in the instruments we use. I was happy enough using Cubase. I didn't need to move to Studio One and if my bandmate had asked me to move back, I'd have done so happily. Beyond a certain fairly low threshold, it honestly isn't that important, which is probably why I am a happy little Vegemite working with Studio One Artist.
machinesworking wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:18 amWhat I love about this is I never have associated anything, not one part of my personality, with the computer I own. Sometimes with people every accusation is a confession.
That's what you think, I'm sure an impartial observer would see it differently. What brand is your smartphone? Your tablet? Your watch? Your mp3 player? Your streaming box? Your smart speaker? Mine are all different brands and all different from the brand of my laptop.
liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:28 amI could go absolutely insane with any good synth and end up producing sounds rather than music i.e., an idea, from beginning to end, which is easily derailed into a rabbit hole when I begin to explore the "ENDLESS" (and you know the rabbit hole :hihi: ) ways to modulate an instrument or a combination of tools...
No, actually I don't. At all, not even a little bit.
machinesworking wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:21 amjust recognize the inherent stupidity in generalizations, marketing, provincialism, branding, nationalism etc. etc.
Nothing compared to the stupidity of thinking that just because you are reading something, it's meant to be about you.
There is nothing more stupid to me than being "proud of" or thinking you're smarter for X or Y reason
Spoken like a man who knows he's never been smarter than anyone, for any reason. (Sorry, it was too juicy to resist.)
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liquidsound wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:29 am There are tools in MuLab that may actually tease your musical interest even though I know Bitwig IS you DAW par excellence :D
Yeah, MuLab does some interesting stuff... no MPE though

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